British Passports

[Fisherman Phil]

And Phil I was not referring to your stance on this just the fact that your reporting was incorrect!
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Shelagh, how was I incorrect by saying the passports will be made in Germany or France?
Britain has been mentioned, but it's far more likely that France or Germany will make them.

[Poppy]

Phil you did not mention Britain at all in your initial post - selective reporting possibly as so many who voted remain tend to do.!! I repeat 3 countries have been shortlisted for the Contract not 2!

[WHL]

When your lining up in longer Qs to get into/out of EU countries, you will get more time to look and admire your Blue passports...

[Poppy]

Do you know WHL I am not too sure about that! I have been in horrendously long queues at Stanstead and Paphos to name just two.Does it not stand to reason that we will be in the minority travelling to EU countries, therefore less people and shorter queues?

[Jimgward]

A whole lot of fun over nothing - the colour of a passport.... honestly....

[Poppy]

And 180 other countries are arriving at the same time? I Don't think so and we are not talking just about the UK are we? Certainly I have flown to many destinations worldwide and the only real queues I have encountered are in Dubai which is horrendous for everyone.I am talking about many airports in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore,Hong Kong , Bangkok, Sri Lanka, LA, etc

[PhotoLady]

Oh, I cannot wait to arrive back at Manchester airport after March 2019 especially when the very large aircraft arrives at the same time from Pakistan. Always a joy to be in the passport control hall then.
Should we just raise our nice special blue passports in the air as we breeze through the formalities totally unencumbered by our new found position?

Most likely we will still be stuck in the menagerie trying to work our way through the shambles of the "retina" queue that is the current bane of foreign travel. I don't see the colour of our passport helping with this anytime soon..... The speed of the control point seems to be dependent on the number of flight arrivals and the size of the hall you arrive at

[WHL]

Do you know WHL I am not too sure about that! I have been in horrendously long queues at Stanstead and Paphos to name just two.Does it not stand to reason that we will be in the minority travelling to EU countries, therefore less people and shorter queues?

You might not be too sure about that, but I am...little story for you....we were on a cruise this year , which finished in Venice, we disembarked on Saturday morning, along with 8 yes 8 other cruise liners at the same time, how do I know this, well the Commodore of the Queen Victoria told us as he said fare well to everyone.,...at the airport it was madness, to get through pass port control there were about fifty people waiting to get through the EU gate...at the non EU gates the lines stretched up and down and out of the terminal down the road, I remember saying to my wife God help us when we have to line up with them in the future, so in the real World we can already see what we got to look forward to.

[Uncle D]

The blue passport will not look like the old one, it will be very similar to the current one.
The Raj finished 70 years ago.
There is no Great in Britain anymore, a red velvet carpet will not be rolled out before us.
My wife just told me that according to the Guardian they didnt need to change it to red in the first place.
I think that having a blue cover was a pathetic attempt to look more important than others.
Delusions of Grandeur springs to mind.

[bromerzz]

Photolady - I shouldn't worry too much about trying to get through Immigration at Manchester at the same time as a flight arrives from Pakistan - plenty of them are already holding British passports.

[Poppy]

So WHL you are saying that out of 8 yes 8 Cruise ships there were only about 50 EU passengers? Goodness me you were certainly in the minority on the Queen Victoria then - must have only been about 6 of you on the entire ship!!

[Dominic]

Interestingly the colour of an EU passport is only a recommendation...but as per past form EU officials use this change as another oppourtunity to spread a little bit of "Christmas" fear...things may indeed change and I would not put it past EU officials to cut off their nose to spite their face and make it more difficult to travel...but that works both ways I Am afraid and I would imagine a lot of EU citizens will be beginning to wonder why things are being made difficult....just to "punish" the UK.

Have you hit the whiskey early? The EU didn't mention passport colour. The UK brought up the subject. All the EU did was say that the EU didn't actually dictate the colour anyway. You, Hudswell, are essentially trying to manufacture a grievance where there isn't one. This is about as passive aggressive as all your other outbursts about the "bullying" EU.

[WHL]

So WHL you are saying that out of 8 yes 8 Cruise ships there were only about 50 EU passengers? Goodness me you were certainly in the minority on the Queen Victoria then - must have only been about 6 of you on the entire ship!!

Thats how many were in the EU line at that time..hahaha and there was you moaning about people being sarcastic..pot kettle and all that the point you fail to see is at the EU gate you just pass through with no more then a glance at the pass port, the poor non EU crowd have their passport looked at more thoroughly...do you get now?

[kingfisher]

Good afternoon Uncle D. The "Great" in Britain has nothing to do with delusions of grandeur. It is historical, and if you're interested, I would refer you to Wikipedia:
"The Greco-Egyptian scientist Ptolemy referred to the larger island as great Britain (μεγάλη Βρεττανία megale Brettania) and to Ireland as little Britain (μικρὰ Βρεττανία mikra Brettania) in his work Almagest (147–148 AD).[20] In his later work, Geography (c. 150 AD), he gave the islands the names Alwion, Iwernia, and Mona (the Isle of Man),[21] suggesting these may have been the names of the individual islands not known to him at the time of writing Almagest.[22] The name Albion appears to have fallen out of use sometime after the Roman conquest of Britain, after which Britain became the more commonplace name for the island.[15]

After the Anglo-Saxon period, Britain was used as a historical term only. Geoffrey of Monmouth in his pseudohistorical Historia Regum Britanniae (c. 1136) refers to the island as Britannia major ("Greater Britain"), to distinguish it from Britannia minor ("Lesser Britain"), the continental region which approximates to modern Brittany, which had been settled in the fifth and sixth centuries by migrants from Britain.[23] The term Great Britain was first used officially in 1474, in the instrument drawing up the proposal for a marriage between Cecily the daughter of Edward IV of England, and James the son of James III of Scotland, which described it as "this Nobill Isle, callit Gret Britanee". It was used again in 1604, when King James VI and I styled himself "King of Great Brittaine, France and Ireland".

[Poppy]

Very interesting kingfisher - thanks!!

[Dominic]

If you are ever bored, you can spend some time comparing Cornwall with the region of Brittany. There are some familiar names.

[Uncle D]

Thanks for the history lesson Kingfisher, but I think that you understood what I meant.

[Mrblobby]

Are we going to get proper old blues ones or just an EU style one in blue ?

[ApusApus]

Are we going to get proper old blues ones or just an EU style one in blue ?

Does it really matter?


Shane

[WHL]

Are we going to get proper old blues ones or just an EU style one in blue ?

Does it really matter?


Shane

Off cause it matters, dont want Johnny Foreigner having the same ones, as us do we?