Discussions about Meals and Petrol Cheap

[Devil]

So, no-one minds eating in restaurants etc. where the low prices may be explained because they are possibly built on stolen land? I am not Cypriot, but I can well understand that many Cypriots find it offensive to support hotels, restaurants, shops etc. built on land that belongs to them, especially if the usurpers are mainland Turks (Anatolians).

I admit that I went over once, when the line was first opened, out of nostalgia for many memories in the 1950s. I was almost sickened by the way the coast on both sides of Kyrenia (mostly Greek-owned land) had been horribly desecrated by the uncontrolled building and the commercialism. The only light side was the site at Salamis, but the nearby monastery where the Apostle Barnabas was buried was desecrated, despite being turned into a museum.

[WHL]

So, no-one minds eating in restaurants etc. where the low prices may be explained because they are possibly built on stolen land? I am not Cypriot, but I can well understand that many Cypriots find it offensive to support hotels, restaurants, shops etc. built on land that belongs to them, especially if the usurpers are mainland Turks (Anatolians).

I admit that I went over once, when the line was first opened, out of nostalgia for many memories in the 1950s. I was almost sickened by the way the coast on both sides of Kyrenia (mostly Greek-owned land) had been horribly desecrated by the uncontrolled building and the commercialism. The only light side was the site at Salamis, but the nearby monastery where the Apostle Barnabas was buried was desecrated, despite being turned into a museum.

I posted the same thing yesterday, and ended up in the pit section.....just imagine not having a massive loan to fund your restaurant, because it was stolen from its lawful owner...of cause... you can charge lower price's... nothing to be proud of

[Royal]

So, no-one minds eating in restaurants etc. where the low prices may be explained because they are possibly built on stolen land? I am not Cypriot, but I can well understand that many Cypriots find it offensive to support hotels, restaurants, shops etc. built on land that belongs to them, especially if the usurpers are mainland Turks (Anatolians).

I admit that I went over once, when the line was first opened, out of nostalgia for many memories in the 1950s. I was almost sickened by the way the coast on both sides of Kyrenia (mostly Greek-owned land) had been horribly desecrated by the uncontrolled building and the commercialism. The only light side was the site at Salamis, but the nearby monastery where the Apostle Barnabas was buried was desecrated, despite being turned into a museum.

So, of course, when going to RoC tavernas, you check beforehand to see whether the property you are eating in is really a displaced Turkish Cypriot owned place and 'gifted' to the Greek Cypriot proprietor?

[WHL]

So, no-one minds eating in restaurants etc. where the low prices may be explained because they are possibly built on stolen land? I am not Cypriot, but I can well understand that many Cypriots find it offensive to support hotels, restaurants, shops etc. built on land that belongs to them, especially if the usurpers are mainland Turks (Anatolians).

I admit that I went over once, when the line was first opened, out of nostalgia for many memories in the 1950s. I was almost sickened by the way the coast on both sides of Kyrenia (mostly Greek-owned land) had been horribly desecrated by the uncontrolled building and the commercialism. The only light side was the site at Salamis, but the nearby monastery where the Apostle Barnabas was buried was desecrated, despite being turned into a museum.

So, of course, when going to RoC tavernas, you check beforehand to see whether the property you are eating in is really a displaced Turkish Cypriot owned place and 'gifted' to the Greek Cypriot proprietor?

'' Gifted'' you really are clueless The greek cypriot who is running the Turkish cypriot restaurant, pays rent which is held for the T/cypriot, when/if a solution is found the original owner will get his property back, hardly the same is it, you should try reading up on things first before posting rubbish

[Royal]

Oh dear, WHL.

You are just as rude as ever.

No wonder you end up in the Pit so many times.

Get those chips off both those shoulders...

[WHL]

Oh dear, WHL.

You are just as rude as ever.

No wonder you end up in the Pit so many times.

Get those chips off both those shoulders...

No Chips ..just an intolerance to people posting rubbish.

[Royal]

No Chips ..just an intolerance to people posting rubbish.

Self loathing? Maybe you need a psychiatrist...

[Royal]

...and I suppose that the Paphos mayor was telling porkies...

http://cyprus-mail.com/2017/08/24/phedo ... ty-affair/

[WHL]

No Chips ..just an intolerance to people posting rubbish.

Self loathing? Maybe you need a psychiatrist...

May be you could recommend your one?

[Royal]

May be you could recommend your one?

Splitting my sides with laughter.

You are so funny...

[Dominic]

This is now in the politics section. I mention this in case somebody posts saying it belongs in the politics section.

HOWEVER

This doesn't mean you can call each other whatever you want. Just stick to the point in hand, and your argument will come across a lot more clearly.

[galexinda]

Further to who actually owns the land various restaurants are built on and deciding whether or not to boycott a particular establishment based on that information, I wonder how many people are aware that Larnaca airport is on Turkish Cypriot owned land?

[WHL]

Further to who actually owns the land various restaurants are built on and deciding whether or not to boycott a particular establishment based on that information, I wonder how many people are aware that Larnaca airport is on Turkish Cypriot owned land?

You are not correct, Larnaca was build on an old RAF site, a portion of the land was build on Turkish Cypriot owned land, and he settled a compensation claim with the Government some years ago...but hey ho nothing like a little bit of fake news is there.

from wiki
Larnaca Airport was hastily developed towards the end of 1974 after the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey on 20 July of the same year,[4] which forced the closure of Nicosia International Airport. The site on which it was built (near the Larnaca Salt Lake), had been previously used as an airfield in the 1930s and, subsequently, as a military installation by the British forces.

[Dominic]

I have now split the thread in two. If you are curious to find out what Lincoln had to eat, ask in the General Discussion section. If you want to discuss the political ramifications of his choice of starter, knock yourself out here.

[PaphosAL]

Dare I mention Asil Nadir, Polly Peck, Del Monte, TRNC all in the same breath?

This bandit made an absolute fortune out of growing citrus on 'free' GC owned orchards in the North, then stole the UK company funds by transferring them to TRNC without the UK banking system even noticing! Shameful...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Peck

[WHL]

Dare I mention Asil Nadir, Polly Peck, Del Monte, TRNC all in the same breath?

This bandit made an absolute fortune out of growing citrus on 'free' GC owned orchards in the North, then stole the UK company funds by transferring them to TRNC without the UK banking system even noticing! Shameful...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Peck

Al...Dont go upsetting, anyone with facts, after all they do save a few lira on their Kebabs...

[Royal]

Dare I mention Asil Nadir, Polly Peck, Del Monte, TRNC all in the same breath?

This bandit made an absolute fortune out of growing citrus on 'free' GC owned orchards in the North, then stole the UK company funds by transferring them to TRNC without the UK banking system even noticing! Shameful...

Al...Dont go upsetting, anyone with facts, after all they do save a few lira on their Kebabs...

Al,

What Asil Nadir did in regards to Polly Peck etc is shameful, but what on earth has it got to do with the fact that Lincoln enjoyed a 3 course meal, with coffee for €28 for two in a good quality restaurant in the North?

He has named the restaurant as 'The Cabin Beach' in Lapta. Do you or anyone else know without question (or strictly as a fact, as WHL has asserted) that this particular property was stolen from a GC? If not, then why are you jumping on the bandwagon of asserting that the price of the meal was low purely down to the fact that the property it was served from has been stolen?

Lincoln also mentioned paying just €0.87 per litre for fuel. Is this stolen? Is the garage from which it was sold stolen? You know these things - how?

Could it be that outside the EU, fuel is cheaper because duty and VAT is cheaper? Could the meal have been cheaper because food and labour are cheaper in the North?

My wife and I have been to the North on holiday and find it generally to be very good value in many, but not all things. The exchange rate at present makes it particularly good value in comparison with the RoC.

We would readily go back too. A friendly and hospitable place for an economical short holiday

[Devil]

He has named the restaurant as 'The Cabin Beach' in Lapta. Do you or anyone else know without question (or strictly as a fact, as WHL has asserted) that this particular property was stolen from a GC?

Practically, the whole of Lapithos was Greek-Cypriot before 1974, although there was Turkish rule in the Ottoman period, but the land was ceded in 1878, with the expansion of the community inland. It had 6 Greek Orthodox parishes, each with its own priest. There were a few Turkish-Cypriots subjugated by the Greek Cypriots; it is unlikely they were landowners. I cannot be more than 99% sure that the restaurant was on stolen Greek-Cypriot property, but the whole village was essentially Greek-Cypriot.

1974:

The piratical invading warships moored off Kerynia, opposite from Lapithos. They murdered, raped, took prisoners and displaced the Lapithiotes all over Cyprus. Since then the bleeding soil of Lapithos has not bloomed any scenting lemon blossom … Ninety-one murdered and missing Lapithiotes are begging for vindication. The blood of the deceased makes the soil moan. The voices of the murdered and missing persons will not let anyone live in peace on the Land of Lapithos unless the rightful owners of this land are allowed back. Unless Justice and Freedom prevails.

http://www.lapithos.org.cy/default.aspx?articleID=2857

[Royal]

I cannot be more than 99% sure that the restaurant was on stolen Greek-Cypriot property, but the whole village was essentially Greek-Cypriot.

You cannot be sure. That's enough. Percentages are meaningless, as you must well know.

[Royal]

Do you (Devil), PaphosAl, or WHL know FOR A FACT that this place is even TC owned and operated, let alone being operated from stolen property?

Having just checked the Cabin Beach website, I found a picture of a cross and the words "Faith is like wi-fi. It's invisible, but it can connect you with what you need"

Doesn't seem like something a TC would put on their website to me. I'm 99% sure of that