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Ian Brady is dead ! I hope wherever he is, he feels the pain and anguish that he put so many people through, not to mention his victims.
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At last, a reasoned, but short, comment. (and I'm not being sarcastic). We should be trying to find out why Brady, West etc. acted like they did - a gene problem etc.? Glad to see the back of the man, but hanging etc. does not solve the long term issue of why people act so abominably. If we could find that out, perhaps future terrible crimes might, just might, be halted.
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Interesting idea - and why not take it a step further and make use of them as guinea pigs to try and find a cure for other medical conditions. At least then we would get some benefit from their disgusting little lives - ah but no, unfortunately then we would be violating their human rights, even though they had no consideration for the victim's human rights.At last, a reasoned, but short, comment. (and I'm not being sarcastic). We should be trying to find out why Brady, West etc. acted like they did - a gene problem etc.? Glad to see the back of the man, but hanging etc. does not solve the long term issue of why people act so abominably. If we could find that out, perhaps future terrible crimes might, just might, be halted.
Personally, I think if you violate someone's human rights by murdering them you should lose all of your own human rights.
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I have always considered criminals fall into 3 categories i.e.DavidatLWH wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2017 4:00 pmAt last, a reasoned, but short, comment. (and I'm not being sarcastic). We should be trying to find out why Brady, West etc. acted like they did - a gene problem etc.? Glad to see the back of the man, but hanging etc. does not solve the long term issue of why people act so abominably. If we could find that out, perhaps future terrible crimes might, just might, be halted.
(1) Naughty people who take their punishment and do not re-offend
(2) Nasty people who no matter what will habitually turn to crime
(3) Pure evil people like Brady et al for whom there is no hope or cure.
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I'm with Lifesabeach on this with his last line.... there have been mistakes in the past. Too many mistakes to justify bringing in the death penalty. However, life should mean exactly that! Lock them up and chuck away the key.
Prison itself should go back to the very basics - I see nothing wrong with bog standard everyday food and water. None of this choice of menus (prisoners had a choice of 3 main meals and 2 desserts when I went to Strangeways prison in Manchester in the late 80s, just before the riot wrecked the recent refurbishments) - a simple meat or veggie option is sufficient.
After all, we only need to keep them going until they die....
No more socialising with other inmates and visitors should be kept separate with screens between them like the old days. There should be no way on this earth that prisoners can get their hands on drugs or weapons being passed through by visitors.
One of our court shorthand writers told me his father was the shorthand writer during the Moors murder trials and he would never let his son Simon, read the notes he had taken. Apparently, it was too harrowing he felt, for his son to have to read...
Hindley and Brady were both nasty pieces of shit and sadly, Brady survived far too long - it would have been better at least, if he had died before Winnie so she may have taken some pleasure from it, instead of going to her grave before him knowing Keith's body had still not been found.
Prison itself should go back to the very basics - I see nothing wrong with bog standard everyday food and water. None of this choice of menus (prisoners had a choice of 3 main meals and 2 desserts when I went to Strangeways prison in Manchester in the late 80s, just before the riot wrecked the recent refurbishments) - a simple meat or veggie option is sufficient.
After all, we only need to keep them going until they die....
No more socialising with other inmates and visitors should be kept separate with screens between them like the old days. There should be no way on this earth that prisoners can get their hands on drugs or weapons being passed through by visitors.
One of our court shorthand writers told me his father was the shorthand writer during the Moors murder trials and he would never let his son Simon, read the notes he had taken. Apparently, it was too harrowing he felt, for his son to have to read...
Hindley and Brady were both nasty pieces of shit and sadly, Brady survived far too long - it would have been better at least, if he had died before Winnie so she may have taken some pleasure from it, instead of going to her grave before him knowing Keith's body had still not been found.
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http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-8546323
Coroner requests that Brady's ashes should not be scattered on Saddleworth Moor.
Hallelujah, a voice of reason.
Just stick them in a pit of nitric acid would be a fitting end I think.
Coroner requests that Brady's ashes should not be scattered on Saddleworth Moor.
Hallelujah, a voice of reason.
Just stick them in a pit of nitric acid would be a fitting end I think.
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Why don't they just cremate the body and flush the ashes down the loo?
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It's cost the taxpayer MILLIONS to keep this monster in jail , a large chunk of that has been paid to psychiatrists...
What an absolute waste of money what were they trying to achieve? IMO the money would have been better spent on water boarding ( or something similar) until he " remembered " where he buried Keith Bennett whose mother went to her grave without being able to put her son to rest.
Although I don't think capital punishment should be the standard punishment for every murderer in the case of people like Brady, hindley , Huntley, west etc then I do think it would be justified . I just hope he died a painful death hopefully screaming like his victims probably did....
Unlike in the past I doubt there would be any wrongful punishment with the DNA evidence we have today
What an absolute waste of money what were they trying to achieve? IMO the money would have been better spent on water boarding ( or something similar) until he " remembered " where he buried Keith Bennett whose mother went to her grave without being able to put her son to rest.
Although I don't think capital punishment should be the standard punishment for every murderer in the case of people like Brady, hindley , Huntley, west etc then I do think it would be justified . I just hope he died a painful death hopefully screaming like his victims probably did....
Unlike in the past I doubt there would be any wrongful punishment with the DNA evidence we have today
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I can go along with this and in my opinion, the media is giving this situation far too much air time. Announce that he is dead.......and move on. he is not worth the time spent either watching on TV or writing about it now.
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Annamarie, its not just the screaming that disturbs me, it's the sheer terror, fear and horror those children must have felt, with absolutely no one to protect or help them. It haunts me. Likewise with Huntley, and all those who harm children. I'm not a supporter of capital punishment, but for pure scum like this I could truly make an exception.
It's in almost every one of us to always protect and nurture children. Low life like Brady, Hindley and Huntley missed that gene, and so deserved the very worst that the judiciary of the day could throw at them. Sadly, it could never ever be enough.
It's in almost every one of us to always protect and nurture children. Low life like Brady, Hindley and Huntley missed that gene, and so deserved the very worst that the judiciary of the day could throw at them. Sadly, it could never ever be enough.
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Another pro for capital punishment then?
Perhaps if they had been hanged fifty years ago Brady's / hindleys victims families wouldn't have had to suffer the endless press attention that these two pieces of work have attracted.
Perhaps if they had been hanged fifty years ago Brady's / hindleys victims families wouldn't have had to suffer the endless press attention that these two pieces of work have attracted.
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Well said Dominic even flushing down the loo would be to good for him. But knowing our government they will treat his remains with respect because that's how we are and all the sanctimonious people will be praying for us to forgive him. I say "b******s to all of them.
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I for one would vote for a judge to have capital punishment as an option for some murder cases.
Obviously all cases are very different but a system could be set up for some of the more extreme ones.
I find it hard to stomach a guy who abducts & kills two young kids, does 15 years & is released which happened in Sunderland in the 70s.
I'm sure there are a lot more cases like this which we never hear of.
Obviously all cases are very different but a system could be set up for some of the more extreme ones.
I find it hard to stomach a guy who abducts & kills two young kids, does 15 years & is released which happened in Sunderland in the 70s.
I'm sure there are a lot more cases like this which we never hear of.
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I think sharks in UK are few and far between so how far would you propose to fly his body (and at what cost) to dump it in the sea so the sharks will find it? I reckon a cremation will be a lot cheaper - my only worry is whether the ashes will eventually end up being offered on eBay....
I think sharks in UK are few and far between so how far would you propose to fly his body (and at what cost) to dump it in the sea so the sharks will find it? I reckon a cremation will be a lot cheaper - my only worry is whether the ashes will eventually end up being offered on eBay....
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