Full article here:The Republic of Ireland, Cyprus, Malta and Luxembourg look set to be the biggest losers from a deterioration in relations between the U.K. and the European Union post-Brexit
With the pound devalued to the extent that it has been, why is that good news?geoffreys wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:31 pm Bit late now - UK is leaving the EU. In any case that stuff is just more scaremongering.
Malta, like Cyprus, will do OK whatever happens because the Brits like visiting the place and also retiring there.
Mega bucks for the Maltese economy - got to be GOOD news I would have thought.
Geoff.
A double edged sword Dominic, yes tourists will have less in thir pocket, so will we as residents, which will have an effect on the local economy.Dominic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:32 pmWith the pound devalued to the extent that it has been, why is that good news?geoffreys wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:31 pm Bit late now - UK is leaving the EU. In any case that stuff is just more scaremongering.
Malta, like Cyprus, will do OK whatever happens because the Brits like visiting the place and also retiring there.
Mega bucks for the Maltese economy - got to be GOOD news I would have thought.
Geoff.
Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:59 am Interesting article today in The Independent, which bears out that Brexit was a bad idea:
I think we can safely ignore his opinion then...Alessio Colonnelli holds a B.A./M.A. in languages and literary translation from Padua University, Italy. He has worked in Madrid and Barcelona, and as an international press editor for a well-known media intelligence company in London. He has written for The Independent, International Business Times, Little Atoms, Foreign Policy, Politico Europe, Left Foot Forward and the LSE blog Euro Crisis in the Press.
Correct.Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:46 am
Always "scaremongering" isn't it Geoff, whatever the source of the news. The pound is once more on a downward track and it seems the UK economy is now starting to feel the effects of this fall in value of the currency: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-services-f ... nance.html
But then again, I suppose I'm just scaremongering
Always interesting to read other people's views - but let's not forget that is exactly what it is - one reporters personal views which clearly fall in line with yours, Lloyd. The 'Independent' is NOT independent at all - it is a liberal left leaning 'newspaper'. I use the quotation marks because I'm not sure that we have any papers that report news anymore - most of them seem to be viewspapers...Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:59 am Interesting article today in The Independent, which bears out that Brexit was a bad idea:
Is he not entitled to express it? I'm damn sure he has put more thought into his opinion than any contributor has to their scribblings on this thread.
I didn't say he wasn't entitled to express it...
I merely pointed out that an anti Brexit article from an anti Brexit author who studied languages and literary translation in an anti Brexit 'newspaper' in no way 'bears out that Brexit was a bad idea'...Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:59 am Interesting article today in The Independent, which bears out that Brexit was a bad idea:
As I pointed out, it is merely an opinion piece. Read it again and see if you can find any substantive facts in it that proves that Brexit was a bad idea... This is a guy that gets paid to write anti Brexit stuff by anti Brexit organisations like The Independent and LSE.Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:14 pm Rather than rubbish the article out of hand, I'd be interested to know from Brexiteers what specific observations made by Alessio Colonnelli they believe to be flawed.
I feel the same way, and neither do I expect the world to accept it because I do.cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:29 pmAs I pointed out, it is merely an opinion piece. Read it again and see if you can find any substantive facts in it that proves that Brexit was a bad idea... This is a guy that gets paid to write anti Brexit stuff by anti Brexit organisations like The Independent and LSE.Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:14 pm Rather than rubbish the article out of hand, I'd be interested to know from Brexiteers what specific observations made by Alessio Colonnelli they believe to be flawed.
My opinion differs 100% from his. That doesn't make me an expert on the subject nor does it prove that Brexit was a good idea.
But when I argue that Brexit is a good idea (or the results of it were not as bad as predicted) I back it with facts. I don't accept the world to accept it because I said so.
Happy to oblige, Lloyd...Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:14 pm Rather than rubbish the article out of hand, I'd be interested to know from Brexiteers what specific observations made by Alessio Colonnelli they believe to be flawed.
The UK's special relationship with the US has nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, nor is it meant to be a replacement for membership of the EU. This premise is simply pointless and should be ignored. He goes on to ask who we as a 'junior partner' we would turn to if we disagreed with American policy. In the same vein he also asks how we would deal with Russia or China. Does this journalist not understand that we are equal members with the US, Russia and China in the UN Security Council with the power of veto? Or that we are an equal member with the US of the G7 group of nations? Or that along with the US we are equal members of NATO? What the author wants us to believe is that we have no power of our own, that we will become the lapdogs of the US and that we would have been far better remaining in the EU. Fat chance! How has the EU dealt with Russia? With sanctions which hurt EU members more than Russia. Brilliant!Alessio Colonnelli wrote:
I believe Britons will come to regret choosing to exit the EU – and here are the three reasons why.
1. The UK’s relationship with the US is no replacement for its membership of the EU
As stated in my reply to point 1 above, we already have a leading role in the world, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with our current membership of the EU. As a member of the EU, we are one of 28 countries - each with a single vote and in some cases each with the power of veto. Yet we are a country of 68 million people and there are 13 EU nations which, if their populations were combined together, they would comprise less than 65 million people. That is not democracy!Alessio Colonnelli wrote:
2. Second, if Britain is eagerly looking for a leading role anywhere in the world, then the best place for that is Europe...
This is pure conjecture on the journalist's part and is all based on what he believes is Britains image abroad. He uses such terms as Britain's 'inflated ego', it's 'old prejudices' it's 'weakness on the world stage' and it's 'arrogance'. Actually, I find it arrogant that this journalist thinks that we are interested in what he thinks of Britain's future after Brexit. He has proven to me that he would make more money writing children's fiction - he seems to have made a good start with this article.Alessio Colonnelli wrote:
3. The concept of a “global Britain” after Brexit is being looked at very sceptically within the Commonwealth.
I'm neither for nor against, rather the opposite, but your cited article is crying more tears than the milk that was spilt and, to mix my metaphors, is as useful as trying to cut water with a sword.Lynsab wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:34 pm While we're on about opinions, mine is that we should remain in the EU...I haven't changed that opinion for a second since June 23rd..in fact I'm far more convinced we should remain...
One of my radio heroes here ( I'm sure everyone's heard of him ) he's very passionate and I'd love to see him in politics...but for now he's doing a great job on LBC...
This is interesting and one I concur with, it's us Remain voters that cared about expats living in Europe, certainly not those who voted to leave...
This is just daft...
I agree - it has nothing to do with the price of fish. It has everything to do with democracy and accountability - or lack of it!Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:17 pm
What has that fact got to do with the price of fish? When the EU comes to vote on an issue, all member states have an equal vote regardless of size.
