Can things get worse?
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Right now, UK politics is a slo-mo car crash.
Negotiations with Labour have fallen apart, almost certainly owing to Labour's insistence on a second referendum, aided and abetted by May's legendary intransigence; Farage has gone and set up an anti-EU party which looks set to trounce both Tories and Labour...and it's very possible a general election will be called, which will likely result in comrade Corbyn getting in.
Meanwhile the government have all but forgotten all about the day-to-day running of UK plc.
Thanks Mr Cameron...brilliant idea
Negotiations with Labour have fallen apart, almost certainly owing to Labour's insistence on a second referendum, aided and abetted by May's legendary intransigence; Farage has gone and set up an anti-EU party which looks set to trounce both Tories and Labour...and it's very possible a general election will be called, which will likely result in comrade Corbyn getting in.
Meanwhile the government have all but forgotten all about the day-to-day running of UK plc.
Thanks Mr Cameron...brilliant idea

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Were Labour insisting on a second referendum though?
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Yes, it loomed large in their negotiations, though I'm note sure it was a red line. It has taken Labour a long time to come around to recognising the sense in giving peeps a second vote. However, my personal belief is that the over-riding cause of the breakdown was May's unwillingness to genuinely negotiate or climb down from the rigid stance which has caused her so many problems to-date.
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I thought Labour were still divided themselves. I didn't think Corbyn wanted one.
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It's the people who voted these clowns in. Many are now rallying around to support Farage who was caught defrauding the EU over expenses and made to pay the money back. He's a proven liar and charlaton accused of helping his pals to sell sterling short on the night of the referendum and people are still paying £25 to support his "company" ; not party. BOJO another known fraudster is the darling of the Tory rank and file and could even become PM even though he's is facing the possibility of a court case and prison for misleading the public while in public office and people are still supporting him.
As I said I believe we get what we deserve.
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You make a good point, but you can count on one hand, the MPs who are not self serving liars, and charlatons, from all four corners pf Parliament,Jim B wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:24 pmIt's the people who voted these clowns in. Many are now rallying around to support Farage who was caught defrauding the EU over expenses and made to pay the money back. He's a proven liar and charlaton accused of helping his pals to sell sterling short on the night of the referendum and people are still paying £25 to support his "company" ; not party. BOJO another known fraudster is the darling of the Tory rank and file and could even become PM even though he's is facing the possibility of a court case and prison for misleading the public while in public office and people are still supporting him.
As I said I believe we get what we deserve.
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Farage was called “A PoundStore Enoch Powell one question time, so years ago” - a very apt description.
Farage was in the National Front as a student and is a complete racist. He’s also not very bright and uses the usual trick of continually saying the same phrases. Much like other ‘popular’ leaders have done before..... although Farage was never elected a leader - he has assumed the front line in a company that is standing people to be elected to never take seats and he will waltz off with the money. He has been financially supported by Banks for years. Anyone who supports him is brainless.
Farage was in the National Front as a student and is a complete racist. He’s also not very bright and uses the usual trick of continually saying the same phrases. Much like other ‘popular’ leaders have done before..... although Farage was never elected a leader - he has assumed the front line in a company that is standing people to be elected to never take seats and he will waltz off with the money. He has been financially supported by Banks for years. Anyone who supports him is brainless.
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A number of esteemed members of this forum have in the past voiced support for both Farage and Johnston.
They appear to have lost their voice for the moment.
Perhaps they have at last woken up to the antics of these unscrupulous, dishonest, corrupt and shameless snake oil salesmen. Which is perhaps being a little unfair to snake oil salesmen

Today's Independent newspaper confirms JimB and Jimgward's assertions:

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You beat me to the post on the gifts from Arron Banks; it appears the EU is looking into it as a matter of urgency as it appears Farage has broken the rules by failing to declare any of them.
Brexiteers are now calling for Farage to lead exit negociations; you couldn't make it up.
I attached another link from Bloomberg relating to Farage, the referendum and short selling.
Jim
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 18946.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... -the-crash
You beat me to the post on the gifts from Arron Banks; it appears the EU is looking into it as a matter of urgency as it appears Farage has broken the rules by failing to declare any of them.
Brexiteers are now calling for Farage to lead exit negociations; you couldn't make it up.
I attached another link from Bloomberg relating to Farage, the referendum and short selling.
Jim
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 18946.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... -the-crash
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As far as I am concerned they are all worse than pond scum. However, if that's who the people vote for then so be it. I will ahem the same attitude if Corby does win an election. Such is life, off to sit by the pool with a book! 

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No, sorry. That doesn't wash. Farage wins the corruption stakes by a country mile.
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How did I miss that?!
I did a google search on Boris Johnson / May / who is worse
and I got this article, dated yesterday, - interesting - in The Spectator.
" Cometh the hour: Boris Johnson may be the Tories' best hope".
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/05/com ... best-hope/
Seems to argue that the worse things get, the better it is for Boris.
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And if Boris were to get in the chances of a 'No Deal' are that much higher. Which is why the pound has slumped over the past few days. €1.134 as I write this.
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Boris would be the very worst I could imagine, barring Rees-Mogg who I think everyone knows is unelectable.
Boris is a an absolute charlatan and if he gets elected, then those who think Corbyn would be bad, will live to rue the day Johnson took power.
Boris is a an absolute charlatan and if he gets elected, then those who think Corbyn would be bad, will live to rue the day Johnson took power.
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But what does Boris stand for?
Of Boris, Rod Liddle observed in yesterday's ST, "The only thing we can be absolutely certain of is that he stands for Boris: all else is a bit of a mystery".
Of Boris, Rod Liddle observed in yesterday's ST, "The only thing we can be absolutely certain of is that he stands for Boris: all else is a bit of a mystery".