Cyprus Peace Talks: Plan "B"?

[geoffreys]

Now the peace talks have failed with each side blaming the other, our President is now saying he hopes they will resume
after April.
But what if they do not resume, for whatever reason/s?
What is the process for acknowledging the talks have failed and for implementing permanent partition? Does such a Plan "B" exist?
Geoff.

[Dominic]

Does there have to be a plan B?

[geoffreys]

Does there have to be a plan B?

I would hope so Dominic, otherwise it will be the status quo, not partition.
Geoff.

[Dominic]

Do partitions ever work?

[geoffreys]

Do partitions ever work?

The status quo we have now doesn't!
Geoff.

[Royal]

Do partitions ever work?

Sometimes, there is simply no choice but to partition a country - even though that means the mass movement of people from one area to another and subsequent hostility and mistrust between the partitioned countries. Look at India/Pakistan, Pakistan/Bangladesh, Israel/Gaza, Eire/N.Ireland, S.Korea/N.Korea and the Former Republic of Yugoslavia as examples where, without partition, there would be ongoing bloodshed.

It would be sad to see Cyprus formally partitioned, but the two cultures seem so far apart including in their respective religions, that there seems little choice. Now if GCs stopped looking towards Greece and TCs stopped looking towards Turkey, things could be so different. Sad.

[Royal]

The status quo we have now doesn't!
Geoff.

Why?

[Mark]

Things will stay as they are, too much history, no incentive, apart from natural gas to change.
On the subject of gas, a great deal has been blown by both sides, and it stinks!

[Taff]

Stalemate is very often the best outcome.

[Dominic]

The only real solution will come from the people themselves, and the chief ingredient of that solution is time.

[Mike.1940]

I don't think they have a plan B. If the GC would pick up their toys they have thrown from their prams and the TC helped picking them up things could be resolved. Too much "grandstanding" on both sides. To suggest something as a holiday for schoolchildren that occurred 77 years is beyond belief. Who in their right mind would want to join with the Hellenic Republic when they are the poor relations of the EU I thought only the "Irish" had long memories!

[ApusApus]

Somebody mentioned this in another post & the solution to the problem will be solved when the Greek Cypriots & the Turkish Cypriots learn to live together in their own right without the interference of Greece & Turkey! The peace talks haven't failed but as Dominic said it may take more time & also a few generation changes for it to happen!

But it will .......... one day!


Shane

[ApusApus]

If you go and speak to the Turkish Cypriots in the North, they don't trust the South and would not wish to live under a GC regime. The North is buzzing, there are shopping centres over there far superior to even the new one, recently opened in Paphos. They have, in my opinion, the best of the island and the best beaches. I am not taking sides for I have no axe to grind, simply stating the facts as I know them. In the North, they have much to lose and little to gain.

Not doubting their distrust but funnily enough on your last statement I thought it was the other way round ............. especially if Turkey has to tighten up on expenditure!


Shane

[Mark]

If you go and speak to the Turkish Cypriots in the North, they don't trust the South and would not wish to live under a GC regime. The North is buzzing, there are shopping centres over there far superior to even the new one, recently opened in Paphos. They have, in my opinion, the best of the island and the best beaches. I am not taking sides for I have no axe to grind, simply stating the facts as I know them. In the North, they have much to lose and little to gain.

Not doubting their distrust but funnily enough on your last statement I thought it was the other way round ............. especially if Turkey has to tighten up on expenditure!


Shane

Agree with Shane, far from buzzing, the North is barely squeaking, money supply tight, poor exchange rate, problems on the home front. I still feel the current status quo will prevail, but the north will be the loser.

[ApusApus]

I think the previous vote probably still prevails, the majority of the north see a more prosperous life being joined to the south & not to an existence with a more troubled society that exists in their apparent "homeland"! Unfortunately, the advantages for the Greek Cypriots seem to have been eroded over time & are probably getting less attractive day by day for them ............ "why would we need to give up so much when we have so much"?

Tough question, but in my opinion a united Cyprus is a win-win for all parties ............. the Greek Cypriots will have to give a certain amount & so will the Turkish but it can be done!


Shane

[Mark]

Well, we will simply have to agree to disagree.

Road Warrier, I have followed your posts for some time, and have benefited from and enjoyed your input.
However on this occasion I feel that a settlement will not be achieved, to much history, to much resentment, not enough good will.

[Kili01]

Yes, you are right ApusApus. There are those who are doing better financially by the current status quo than they would if the island reunited.
There is mutual distrust on both sides, plus those who have a personal score to settle. All this could be settled if there was a will do so - plus a mutual give and take mentality. But unfortunately there is also a strong tribal mentality still among many GC's with the result that few are able to see and support an idea of something which could benefit everyone on the whole island.
Dee

[Jersey]

Now the peace talks have failed with each side blaming the other, our President is now saying he hopes they will resume
after April.
But what if they do not resume, for whatever reason/s?
What is the process for acknowledging the talks have failed and for implementing permanent partition? Does such a Plan "B" exist?
Geoff.

Which one is "your" president ..??

[geoffreys]

Now the peace talks have failed with each side blaming the other, our President is now saying he hopes they will resume
after April.
But what if they do not resume, for whatever reason/s?
What is the process for acknowledging the talks have failed and for implementing permanent partition? Does such a Plan "B" exist?
Geoff.

Which one is "your" president ..??

President Anastiades. (sri if I spelt his name wrong, I have difficulty pronouncing it too!).
The President of the Republic of Cyprus.
Geoff.