Hospitality Industry

[tyelaw47]

I have recently had occasion to spend some time travelling around the Lake District and western coast of Scotland. To my surprise hotel staff were not European but locals,Australian,New Zealanders and Americans and one Indian unlike Cyprus where the majority appear to be European.
I appreciate that this was only a small area of the UK but there was not a European member of staff in sight. The aussies and others I spoke to were perfectly happy in these roles and had no problems getting work permits etc so maybe we don't rely on European workers as much as some may think?

[Dominic]

Perhaps the EU workers have already left?

But the figures for EU workers are readily available and don't need to be speculated. They are what they are.

[Jimgward]

The hospitality industry has always in recent years, relied on travellers, students and immigrants. They don’t care where from. In the more ‘remote’ areas, where local jobs are scarce, then more locals take positions.

[OhSusana]

Share of UK tourism and hospitality workers from other European Union countries in 2011 and 2016, by industry
https://www.statista.com/statistics/629 ... -industry/
extract
This statistic presents the share of EU migrant workers occupied in the hospitality and tourism workforce in the United Kingdom (UK) in 2011 and 2016, by industry. In total EU migrants made up 45 percent of the tourism and hospitality workforce in 2016, up from 22 percent in 2011. Holiday/short stay, campsites and similar accommodation had the highest reliance on migrants from other EU countries in 2016.

[tyelaw47]

I really don't think that quoting statistics from 2 years ago is helpful.

[Jim B]

Tyelaw
I think you will find they are the latest statistics available but below is an article from the Independent (I know but pro Brexit papers won't print articles negative to Brexit)

I know this article is 12 months old but if you Google the information is out there.

Jim


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busi ... 46246.html

[Jimgward]

I really don't think that quoting statistics from 2 years ago is helpful.

2 year old statistics from government are actually very relevant and I think these ones are very helpful. Maybe they didn’t meet your expectation

[tyelaw47]

Not at all Jimgward.I had no expectations at all,I was merely stating a fact that I had found during my recent travels around North west England and Scotland. No facts or figures just my own personal experience and not one EU worker in sight( although I am sure there must have been some but certainly not in the establishments I frequented)
This post was not aimed at being pro or anti brexit but merely stating that workers from outside of the EU appeared to be quite prominent and if it was easy for them to attain visas then it should not be difficult for EU citizens.
And so statistics from 2016 just had no relevance to my post.

[Dominic]

Not at all Jimgward.I had no expectations at all,I was merely stating a fact that I had found during my recent travels around North west England and Scotland. No facts or figures just my own personal experience and not one EU worker in sight( although I am sure there must have been some but certainly not in the establishments I frequented)
This post was not aimed at being pro or anti brexit but merely stating that workers from outside of the EU appeared to be quite prominent and if it was easy for them to attain visas then it should not be difficult for EU citizens.
And so statistics from 2016 just had no relevance to my post.

So why did you say this?

"so maybe we don't rely on European workers as much as some may think?"

That opens the door for people to post relevant statistics.

[tyelaw47]

Do I really need to justify every sentence I write? I say again it was not intended to be provocative in any way but my personal findings in a small area of the UK very recently so what possible relevance could stats from 2016 have?
My main observation was merely that I was somewhat surprised to see how many Australians and New Zealanders were working in Hospitality in this area as opposed to Europeans.
Why such a basic statement has to result in argument really is beyond me.

[tyelaw47]

Well HIC I felt initially I had to respond to correct the inaccuracy as 1.07 would have been very worrying for some.
In the 2nd instance I admit I was provoked to respond when,in my opinion, you were rude to Outasite about the lack of paras in his post, so you were allowed a typing error but he was not allowed a grammatical error.
Hence there is no similarity at all.
None of my posts are rude or intended to provoke unlike,I have to say, yours are at times.

Who said "Good manners maketh man"? or am I mis-quoting again!!?

[Jim B]

Tyelaw
If you trawl back through the thousands of posts over the years there are many comments/complaints about lack of paragraphs in posts from both Leavers; Remainers and those who are not bothered either way. HIC is not the first to make this request and no doubt won't be the last.

Re. your post about the Lake District; I used to cover that area with United Utilities and spent my time driving all over the place from Windermere to Cockermouth and beyond. So much to see up there.

Jim

[tyelaw47]

Yes Jim B,absolutely beautiful and apparently they have had a lovely Summer which unfortunately had broken when I arrived!

[tyelaw47]

Ha ha!! Quite so Termites Dream!

[Jimgward]

Edinburgh and the highlands has always attracted travellers from australasia and South Africa to work in the hospitality side. It’s one of their stopovers in travelling the big walk about.

[WHL]

This might shed some light on who can come to work in the UK, and what permits you need etc.
https://www.caterer.com/careers-advice/ ... -in-the-uk

[Firefly]

Quite a few years ago, I noticed the number of Australians who were working in local bars in Herefordshire. We got quite friendly with one young lady who explained that most of them were studying at University, and this was how they earned money during the holidays.

Jackie