Theresa May's perfectly pointless trip to Africa

[Dominic]

If you care that much why didn't you vote?

[Uncle D]

Although me and my wife voted to remain, I am afraid that I have to agree with Dominic, if all the people who didnt vote, voted, there may well have been a different outcome.

[tyelaw47]

I think you will find that your extreme views on Brexit are ruling your head Happy in Cyprus. The trade deal with Africa is not to be sneered at and had to be done on leaving the EU. Are you trying to say that after Brexit we will not be trading with the EU or they with the UK? This really is nothing but scaremongering of the worst kind and I think you know it.
It appears to me that many who are pro EU are clutching at straws and making rather wild claims in an attempt to justify their ideology.

[Jim B]

I'd be interested to know what the UK is going to export to these developing countries as most equipment developed in the UK is high end.
Jim

[Jimgward]

On the radio yesterday, they pointed out that May has visited once to these countries, the Chinese leader nearly 80 times and even Macron was into the teens.... While most are English speaking, the local view seems to be that the UK has ignored them till now

[Jimgym]

If you care that much why didn't you vote?

Excellent question

[Dominic]

If you care that much why didn't you vote?

Last time this question was raised you agreed with my stance!

Perhaps now then you will get the hint? It's getting very dull.

[June]

FWIW Hudswell, wife and I didn't bother vote in UK general elections either for around two decades prior to leaving the UK. Our choice.

And I suppose anyone who would listen to you was bored rigid then too if things didn't go the way you thought they should?
No doubt you knew better.

[Varky]

I'd be interested to know what the UK is going to export to these developing countries as most equipment developed in the UK is high end.
Jim

Maybe UK will be importing from these countries at prices lower than those existing within the EU and by doing this will help such countries develop their own economies. This was prohibited under EU rules.

[kingfisher]

Varky, you have it.
The trade will be beneficial to both the African people and UK.
The Chinese are in Africa to offload their junk and buy up as much of the mineral wealth of the place as they can, and incidentally ensure their brand of Marxism, along with Islam, the machete and mobile take Africa over, and undo any remaining good that was achieved by the Christian missionaries, with their schools, churches, hospitals and dispensaries. [and- above all- their message].

Jon

[Jim B]

49 of the poorest countries in the world, most from Africa already have Tariff Free Access to the EU under the "Anything But Arms Agreement" so they are benefiting already.
Whether you like the Chinese or not they are building massive infrastructure projects all over Africa that benefit the people like roads, bridges, railways; things the UK government can't even provide for its own citizens

https://infacts.org/these-5-eu-trade-my ... -nonsense/

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2 ... 150983.pdf

https://www.economist.com/europe/2011/0 ... war-within

Jim

[Jimgward]

Varky, you have it.
The trade will be beneficial to both the African people and UK.
The Chinese are in Africa to offload their junk and buy up as much of the mineral wealth of the place as they can, and incidentally ensure their brand of Marxism, along with Islam, the machete and mobile take Africa over, and undo any remaining good that was achieved by the Christian missionaries, with their schools, churches, hospitals and dispensaries. [and- above all- their message].

Jon

My goodness..... all that Chinese junk our lives now depend on..... every major electrical item, every major small manufactured item

I’m sure all those natives we held bayonets and bibles to, would be glad we weren’t Chinese..... this is 21st century Imperialism. It might be taking natural resources, but it is buiulding proper infrastructure in many cases. It still isnt right, but whenyou have mud hospitals (missionary) being replaced by modern buildings......

[kingfisher]

An interesting article from New Labour Forum:
http://newlaborforum.cuny.edu/2011/05/1 ... lonialism/

[Jim B]

It's nothing new; I can recall Chinese companies coming out to Kuwait in the early nineties just after the first Gulf War. They've been making massive inroads into the Stans building the new Silk Road to send their exports to Europe. True they make some junk but they also manufacture some quality equipment as well. The UK is thirty years too late.

Jim

[Jimgward]

So, Kingfisher, you're confusing me now.... are the Chinese in Africa OK? Or are they colonialists, like we were in the previous centuries?

Are they doing good, or bad? Will we do good or bad?

[kingfisher]

Jimgward- I would refer you to Shakespeare: [Hamlet] .... "there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so"....

Jon.

[Jimgward]

“But pleasures are like poppies spread,
You seize the flower, it's bloom is shed;
Or, like the snow-fall in the river,
A moment white, then melts forever.”


― Robert Burns, Tam O'Shanter

[kingfisher]

Jim- I'll bet every "snowflake" would die for that last beautiful couplet on their marble headstone!

[Firefly]

All that Chinese junk our lives depend on, how true, hang on, they're not in the EU

Jackie

[Firefly]

Lloyd

Yes I'm well aware that most of our goods are made in China, therefore what's all the fuss about staying in the EU ?

Jackie