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I would say that the answer would be yes the person would be less likely to speed in future,and also be more aware of what is all around them whilst driving..
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Happy in Cyprus wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:02 am The fact that speeding - on a global basis, not just Cyprus - is as rampant now as it was 20 or 40 years ago, suggests that for most people, lessons are not learnt. Were speeding fines effective in educating drivers as to the errors of their ways, then the 'crime' of speeding would be almost extinct. It isn't.

A few years ago in the UK, at the height of the "1 mph over the limit" blitz on speeding motorists (esp. by the zealot Chief Constable of North Wales) the tabloids delighted in conducting their own speed tests on Chief Constables and senior Police officers...and guess what, they found that they were guilty of speeding too.

I don't care what anyone says, most of us speed to a greater or lesser extent - often inadvertantly and without realising - more than we care to admit. There are very few paragons of virtue around.
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I am rather surprised by you HIC, I thought that you would have read and understood the UK Highway Code which explains speed limits and how to identify them.

Have a read of https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

For the average motorist in the UK, a 30mph limit is a road with street lights every 200 yards or less and NO signs saying that another speed limit is in force.
If the speed limit is different from 30mph there will be 40 or 50mph repeater signs on display.
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Doesn't the highway code define speed limits? Built up areas, open country, that sort of thing?
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boycott wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:46 am I am rather surprised by you HIC, I thought that you would have read and understood the UK Highway Code which explains speed limits and how to identify them.

Have a read of https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

For the average motorist in the UK, a 30mph limit is a road with street lights every 200 yards or less and NO signs saying that another speed limit is in force.
If the speed limit is different from 30mph there will be 40 or 50mph repeater signs on display.
Do bear in mind that this thread is about speed limits in Cyprus not the UK

However I think that all speed limits here do have a sign indicating the maximum speed..
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Agreed Trev, here in Cyprus it appears that they do NOT use the repeater signs as in the UK, however in my experience of driving here there are plenty of signs showing the speed limit (ie 50/65/80km) when you enter the said area.
It is slightly confusing for us British drivers as here a lot of the dual carriageways here are 50km limit as opposed to most in the UK are 40mph.
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I know some people on this site do not agree BUT like it or not speed kills or seriously injures people, here or in the UK.

Taken from http://think.direct.gov.uk/speed.html

Speed is one of the main factors in fatal road accidents
In 2013, 3,064 people were killed or seriously injured in crashes where speed was a factor
The risk of death is approximately four times higher when a pedestrian is hit at 40mph than at 30mph
Fatal accidents are four times as likely on rural “A” roads as urban “A” roads
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daveg wrote: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:22 pm The point being , surely, is that a 50km speed limit on the new airport road is ridiculous....
Leaving the Police looking as purely tax collectors...
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Whats the rush anyway, most of us are retired and have all the time in the day to get from A to B.
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Ha ha... "Well within the limits" ;-) at 110 or 120 in a 100 km/hr limit. However I am not throwing stones and various people, with better knowledge than me have told me that up to 120 in a 100 are you will not be prosecutes.
Hence like Hudswell I do around 110 on the motorway
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Should you be involved in a serious accident, what will be your explanation to the Police and Courts? (Remember speed can be proved from skid marks)


Will your insurance company pay out if your speed is proved to be over the limit?
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Far too many Mr perfects posting on this thread, you know who you are, we all have stepped over the line in our long driving lives, for me, it was my first ticket ever in my 54 years of driving, the point of this thread is the ridiculous road speed limit that has been set on this road, it is not a built up area just scrubland, for sure you are an easy target, so that Mr. Perfects out here should watch out driving down this new motorway to nowhere. Again local bobbies do the right thing and come into villages, get those who are a far more serious risk than driving down a stupidly slow bypass..
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Why do you want to know?, I guess you have been a lot faster in your time all them super fast Army vehicles.

But not as fast as the taxi that thrashed by us all. If you ever drive down this new motorway to nowhere let us all know how 50kph feels, bloody slow and the speed limit on this road is plain stupid, especially when it links of the same road where 65 kph is the set speed, and yes this is a built-up area, the Police need a quiet word in there know all ears, and visit villages where we do have a serious problem with motorbikes and speeding vehicles.

I think speeding fines were set when motors had awful brakes and steering, times have changed, time to get a rethink.

I happily paid my fine (next day at the BOC) but I honestly wish it had gone to a local animal sanctuary, I feel as if I was robbed, AND I WAS!
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Very disappointed in you HIC, have a look at http://forensicdynamics.com/stopping-br ... calculator and Google determining speed from skid marks calculator and you will plenty of evidence to prove speed from skid marks.

Also HIC your neighbour goes to show that whatever the limit some people will always puch it just a bit more then moan when they get a ticket.

Stopping distance at 100kmp is 56m and at 121kmp is 82m, so alot more damage, serious injuries caused by that so extra speed!

However Road accident investigators normally only attend serious injury or fatel road accidents, and most speed enforcement in the main in the UK is done by persons paid for by the Police and council and not dedicated Police Officers and most are cameras rather than Allesley's mate hiding behind a hedge!

In the UK there has been a 23% reduction in the number of full-time equivalent traffic police officers from 5,635 in 2010 to 4,356 in 2014.
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For those that think speed enforcement is a money making project have a read of this - https://www.directlinegroup.com/media/n ... 32018.aspx - Below is part of the report -

Between 2012 and 2016 there were 97,256 casualties on Britain’s roads where speeding was a contributing factor
62,901 vehicles were involved in accidents caused by speeding in the last five years
Just four per cent of speeding related accidents are on motorways
West Midlands and the South West are Britain’s speeding casualty hot spots where one in six (18 per cent) of all road casualties were a result of speeding

Nearly 20,000 people are injured on Britain’s roads in speed-related accidents every year, reveals new research by Direct Line Car Insurance1. Between 2012 and 2016, the most recent data available, there were 97,256 speeding related casualties, the equivalent of 53 people injured every day.
These casualties resulted from 62,901 accidents caused by speeding, with 34 vehicles a day involved in speed-related accidents on average. One in nine (11 per cent) of all accidents on Britain’s roads over the past five years are speed related, with drivers either exceeding the speed limit or travelling too fast for the road conditions.
Nearly 15,000 (23 per cent) speeding-related accidents over the past five years have been classed as serious, causing 17,636 serious injuries or deaths. Speeding is the second most deadly contributing factor in road accidents over the last five years and the cause of 2,101 deaths. This is second only to loss of control, which claimed 2,561 lives over the same period. The number of speeding accidents leading to death or serious injury has risen slightly (one per cent) over the last five years, although the total number of accidents has fallen by 14 per cent.
More than two fifths (43 per cent) of all accidents caused by speeding occur on A roads, while one in seven (15 per cent) take place on B roads. Just four per cent of speeding related accidents were on motorways.
Britain’s worst speeding casualty regions are the West Midlands and South West, where nearly a fifth (18 per cent) of all casualties resulted from speeding motorists. Unsurprisingly, these regions are also the two with the highest proportion of speed-related accidents, with one in six (16 per cent) accidents on roads in these areas due to speeding.
London has the lowest proportion of speed-related casualties (nine per cent) of all regions and the lowest proportion of speed-related accidents (eight per cent). The South East has the highest number of casualties due to speeding, but it is a low proportion of all casualties caused by road accidents.
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If Direct Line Insurance is not good enough evidence for you, perhaps ROSPA may convince you, sorry far to long to copy.


https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/adv ... -speed.pdf
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This shows that speed enforcement is not just easy targets. (211km/h is 131mph)

A man was sentenced to 21 days in prison on Thursday in Limassol after he was caught speeding.

The 31-year-old had been caught driving at 211 km/h instead of the allowed 80km/h.

In addition to the prison sentence he is not allowed to drive for 40 days after he is released.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/06/29/pris ... -motorist/
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Austin7 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:26 pm If a speed sign says 50 I never go above it, I always check on my mph speedometer :lol:
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The fact is, if you get a ticket, be it for speeding, parking, not wearing a seat belt or whatever, you are less likely to offend again. So every ticket will serve a purpose.
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Regarding Boycott's post about a man receiving a jail sentence followed by a ban of 40 days after he is released. The ban should be for much longer and the man should have to resit and pass the driving test before being allowed back unsupervised on the roads.
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