Feral kids

[STELIOSBWFC]

Lots of news papers day in day out report this and ask how can it be stopped. Easy a punch on the flipping nose discipline. My kids were taught the right way no slaps a strong word and taught right from wrong. Why does the nanny state of the UK moan when they caused it.

[STELIOSBWFC]

The poor bloody police are spat at and all sorts. When I was a kid I was taken home for riding a bike on the pavement and my Dad give me a slap on the head. The old days of a punch up in the park and when you had add enough you give in shook hands and turned out as mates the next day have long gone.

[Dominic]

It's a tough one. On the one hand, it is easy to say something like "delinquent kids are raised by delinquent adults". But not all yobs come from broken homes.

But blaming the Nanny State, isn't that passing the buck? The buck stops with the parents, not the state. The state is there to build hospitals and maintain the roads. Adults are responsible for raising children. If the kids of UK are misbehaving, blame the adults.

[Quiet-life!]

Interesting subject......my wonderful wife studied child psychology ......which probably helps in dealing with me .......don't know if you guys have ever read the wonderful works of the great .......real Trotter .......Dave excluded https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Trotter

[trevnhil]

In the seaside town where I grew up the present scourge is cars regularly being 'keyed' or scratched.
This happens very late at night or in the early hours of the morning.. Difficult to see what people can do about it, but it costs a lot of money to repair / respray.. And some have had resprays done for the same thing to happen again just a week or two later.

[Quiet-life!]

was listening to one of my favorite .....Desert island Disc's episodes with Jennifer Saunders.....and she referred to her great days in London listening to Blondie......she said ......and I quote "aerial bending days" ......I never did that !

[aphrodite]

I was born, raised, educated and mostly worked in London. It saddens me that it is not the place I remember where I knew no fear of gangs or knife crime. I was brought up to observe the law, be respectful, polite, with good manners, always saying 'please' and 'thank you'.

I am just thankful that I am not a teenager growing up in the present culture in London and around the UK and that I live in Cyprus.

[Cactuslil]

The nanny state can be blamed because nowadays parents can’t slap their child, teachers can’t touch their pupils, parents & pupils try to bend the rules regarding uniforms & then play the gender/ ethnic card. There is not enough respect for human life & no real deterants. I know this probably makes me sound like a really old granny but I also believe the violence in films & gaming doesn’t help.

[WHL]

More worrying is these thugs going around the UK on mopeds, stealing, spraying acid into peoples faces, not a care in the World because they know, the Police wont chase them, in case they fall off the bikes, and hurt themselves, sorry but the Police and the state have shown the white flag were these scumbags are concerned.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 37421.html

https://youtu.be/TWilMUpEMEk
https://youtu.be/yESgZIWl-7o

[Dominic]

Acid is used because there is nothing illegal about carrying it. From the criminals' point of view, they aren't being extra vindictive, they are just opting for the means of attack that will give them the least sentence if caught.

The law needs to change, very quickly.

[WHL]

Acid is used because there is nothing illegal about carrying it. From the criminals' point of view, they aren't being extra vindictive, they are just opting for the means of attack that will give them the least sentence if caught.

The law needs to change, very quickly.

Agree with your comments Dominic, but these thugs think nothing of blinding someone for life, as long as they get what they want, the Law makers should reflect the Public's revulsion at these evil acts.

[Dominic]

Acid is used because there is nothing illegal about carrying it. From the criminals' point of view, they aren't being extra vindictive, they are just opting for the means of attack that will give them the least sentence if caught.

The law needs to change, very quickly.

Agree with your comments Dominic, but these thugs think nothing of blinding someone for life, as long as they get what they want, the Law makers should reflect the Public's revulsion at these evil acts.

Oh I wasn't condoning them. I was just saying why they used acid.

[boycott]

The law doesn't need to be changed as the charge of offensive weapon covers the carrying of acid, as well as going equipped to steal.

[Dominic]

The nanny state can be blamed because nowadays parents can’t slap their child, teachers can’t touch their pupils, parents & pupils try to bend the rules regarding uniforms & then play the gender/ ethnic card. There is not enough respect for human life & no real deterants. I know this probably makes me sound like a really old granny but I also believe the violence in films & gaming doesn’t help.

Actually cactuslil, you've hit the nail right on the head...that is the problem!

Was reading yesterday of a very successful businessman, who was earning hundreds of thousands a year in IT. Following another person's role model he decided to give it all up to become a teacher. He wanted to be able to pass on to todays kids his knowledge and life experiences. After a few months he gave up on his idyll and went back into business. The reason: the complete lack of discpline in schools, where kids could be rude and offhand to teachers as well as each other and, as he said, couldn't be bothered to lift their heads off the desk. A complete lack of discipline in both school and home. In our day, if you severely misbehaved you got the cane

My wife is a teacher in Cyprus, and our son a teacher in the UK. That situation is certainly not the norm, in their experience.

Besides the worst parents are the ones whose only response to misbehavior is to whack the child. Even then, they aren't whacking them because they misbehaved, they are whacking them because they got caught.

In my opinion, the biggest problem is that people aren't prepared to take responsibility for their kids, and, worse, they aren't prepared to take the time to bring them up properly. It used to just be the TV that was the surrogate parent, now that has been replaced with the internet. But it's not only that. Playing fields have vanished, woodlands removed. Kids have less places to play now. Kids like role models, it is in their DNA. Without decent role models, what do you think is going to happen?

With regards to violence towards children, my attitude has always been that it should only be used if you would treat an adult in the same fashion.

[Quiet-life!]

well.....no kids here but am still listening to a couple of crazy dogs barking and a crowing cock..... they are supposed to stop after breakfast?

[aphrodite]

I have a cock that goes off at 3am every night!

I'm wondering if you might be staying close to the Paphiakos dog pound as they bark all day and night.

[Quiet-life!]

Aphro.....sounds like you need your cock crowing.......but if you can help with a long term rent ......I will be yours forever:)

[WHL]

I have a cock that goes off at 3am every night!

I'm wondering if you might be staying close to the Paphiakos dog pound as they bark all day and night.

My wife would be well jealous..

[Reesy]

Not wishing to sound to pessimistic , but I feel the genie is well and truly out of the bottle. The U.K. now has a third generation of unemployed families not looking for or wanting to work. Work together with school was always a source of discipline , no more I’m afraid.

[Dominic]

It is certainly a vicious circle.