96% drop in recruitment of EU nurses since BREXIT

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Re: 96% drop in recruitment of EU nurses since BREXIT

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Jimgward wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:26 pm Pete G said "Despite having burgeoning staff costs from the point above the NHS, because they do no cost benefit analysis still manage to spend an additional amount of money at nearly 50% of their total staff costs in litigation. 2016 staff budget 120bn, another 56bn spent on litigation."

This was discussed on here before and debunked....
Well that must have been a pretty good story, as it seems to have me fooled [not very difficult] but also the NAO, Law Society, the Government, and the mainstream media fooled as well.

Even the official NHS Litigation figures available for the previous year available here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 16_web.pdf put the central spend only at 27.8bn, which of course doesn't include payments made directly by hospitals, including crucially insurance payments against litigation [currently running at around 700 per birth for example], and staff time for ongoing processing.

So I have to say, 56bn doesn't seem an unreasonable figure to me, given previous history, but since it has been 'debunked' I presume we know what the figure actually is.

If so, someone ought to tell the NAO
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Re: 96% drop in recruitment of EU nurses since BREXIT

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Jim

The NHS needs LESS managers not more for Heaven's sake. If you are frequently in and out of hospitals with your job, even you must see the waste of public money spent on managers, their secretaries and expenses. Matron managed alone, and a damn good job she made of it too.

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Re: 96% drop in recruitment of EU nurses since BREXIT

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Firefly wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:44 pm Jim

The NHS needs LESS managers not more for Heaven's sake. If you are frequently in and out of hospitals with your job, even you must see the waste of public money spent on managers, their secretaries and expenses. Matron managed alone, and a damn good job she made of it too.

Jackie
I actually meant, to replace many of the managers in post, who are doing ineffective jobs....

Gosh, I wouldn't want more overheads and non-clinical staff. There are too many already....
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Re: 96% drop in recruitment of EU nurses since BREXIT

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Well at least we agree on that.

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