British Prime Minister playing fast and loose with Good Friday Agreement in bid to cling to power – Gerry Adams

[OhSusana]

British Prime Minister playing fast and loose with Good Friday Agreement in bid to cling to power – Gerry Adams
http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/45053
“We told Prime Minister May and she and her government are in default of the Good Friday Agreement and that they have turned a blind eye to the disruptive actions of the DUP over a long time.

Both the government and the DUP have refused to implement key agreements on language and equality rights and dealing with the legacy of the past.

The DUP are opposed to rights that are enjoyed across Britain and in the rest of Ireland, especially in respect of LGBT citizens and marriage equality.

The failure to honour commitments made, in some cases almost 20 years ago, and the allegations of corruption over the Renewable Heat Initiative are why Martin McGuinness resigned.

That is why the Institutions are in crisis.

The British government have made clear its intention to scrap the Human Rights Act and leave the European Court of Justice, and the European Convention on Human Rights. This is a direct attack on the Good Friday Agreement, and the core human rights elements of the agreement.

The imposition of Brexit, against the will of the people of the North, will undermine the all-Ireland structures and rights of citizens in the North to EU citizenship, which are guaranteed under the Good Friday Agreement. ...

This story reported in various sources, but this is the most detailed that I can see.
Could be interesting if he is right...

[Jimgward]

The Good Friday Agremenf has always been tenuous to say the least, and inter communal violence on the streets of Northern Ireland is still a regular occurance. The DUP is a legitimately appointed political party, as is Sinn Fein, who have always declined to take up their seats in Westminster...Sinn Fein have always had just one aim, it is no different now as to when they were committed to terrorism...a United Ireland. Adams will do and say anything to pursue the Republican cause, they have no interest at all in maintains the Northern Ireland Assembly and will,always look to disrupting the political proceed for their own ends.

I think you could easily say that both sides are so polar opposite, that neither works for the greater good. You only have to look at the squabbling over boundaries for elections, to Irish language opposition and much more. There is still a recent history of conflict, so in many ways its amazing that peace is holding and the Irish and UK governments are a large part of that and need to remain so. The conflict of interest in the Tories getting into bed with the DUP could affected elements of that and therefore it's wrong.

I'm sure the tories could more easily form an agreement with the Lib Dems again.

[josef k]

There are two bodies who have the role of mediators between the two sides in Stormont. One is the UK government and the other is the Irish government. If the UK government forms an arrangement with the DUP, then they have given up their independence as a mediator and that just leaves the Irish government who would be the sole mediator between the two sides in Stormont. I can't think of anything more likely to move N Ireland towards the Republic of Ireland.

Yet another own goal by the present UK government.

[Dominic]

They also swore they wouldn't introduce tuition fees for students.

[tonee]

Gordon Brown wanted to do a deal with the DUP,dont remember people up in arms then!

[Jimgward]

Gordon Brown wanted to do a deal with the DUP,dont remember people up in arms then!

No, he didn't. He wanted to get ALL parties in NI to discuss. When that wasn't possible, he dropped it.

[Jimgward]

I think you will find that the Libdems declared they would not form a coalition with the Conservatives or indeed Labour, and yes the politics in NI are extreamly complex and to be honest I think you have to be from Northern Ireland to even start to understand the sectarian divide there. The Conservatives and the DUP have had an "informal Coalition" since 2016, in order to prop up the Conservatives small majority....where was the fuss then? Sinn Fein are mischief making, if they really cared about the future of NI and the U.K. As a whole they would take their seats in Westminster. Like it or not the DUP are elected members of Parliament, some may not agree with all their views...I note students are in uproar because of the DUPs stance on Gay rights...well sorry but we all have a right to a view...haven't we? The conservatives are not entering into a Coalition, it is a "Support and Confidence" arrangement to ensure that we have a Government that can actually govern as opposed to a Government determined on bring the country down...cue Mr McDonnell calling for a mass march on Parliament to demand the Conservatives to step aside.....

Having relations there and being from the West of Scotland, I am quite aware of the politics, religious divide and history.

You've ignored the UK and Irish government role in peacekeeping, concentrating only on backing the conservative stance with the DUP. A party with much to hold hold against them, never mind gay rights. Add the closeness to Protestant paramilitary groups, views on women's rights, views on creationism and much much more. They are a party of segregation. Of old-fashioned views on everything. A party rightly accused on sectarian and religiously biased attitudes. Then add in the corruption over the green payments for some that has committed them to over £500m in payments, linked to DUP supporters and party members.

I think 90% of the UK would condemn any moves to get into bed with them for the reason alone, of jeopardising the peace agreement.

[cyprusgrump]

Gordon Brown wanted to do a deal with the DUP,dont remember people up in arms then!

No, he didn't. He wanted to get ALL parties in NI to discuss. When that wasn't possible, he dropped it.

General Election 2010: DUP now being courted by Labour

The Democratic Unionists have claimed they are being courted by Gordon Brown ahead of a possible hung parliament - less than 24 hours after details of a potential deal with David Cameron emerged.

[Jimgward]

Gordon Brown wanted to do a deal with the DUP,dont remember people up in arms then!

No, he didn't. He wanted to get ALL parties in NI to discuss. When that wasn't possible, he dropped it.

General Election 2010: DUP now being courted by Labour

The Democratic Unionists have claimed they are being courted by Gordon Brown ahead of a possible hung parliament - less than 24 hours after details of a potential deal with David Cameron emerged.

Watch last nights question time. Completely denied. You'd rather believe the DUP?

[cyprusgrump]

No, he didn't. He wanted to get ALL parties in NI to discuss. When that wasn't possible, he dropped it.

General Election 2010: DUP now being courted by Labour

The Democratic Unionists have claimed they are being courted by Gordon Brown ahead of a possible hung parliament - less than 24 hours after details of a potential deal with David Cameron emerged.

Watch last nights question time. Completely denied. You'd rather believe the DUP?

Believe what you like...

But if you have reached adult age and think that ANY politician wouldn't do a deal with the devil himself to retain power and privilidge then you are a fool my friend...

[Jimgward]

General Election 2010: DUP now being courted by Labour

Watch last nights question time. Completely denied. You'd rather believe the DUP?

Believe what you like...

But if you have reached adult age and think that ANY politician wouldn't do a deal with the devil himself to retain power and privilidge then you are a fool my friend...

I have an inbuilt distrust of politicians. However, while Brown was a poor PM, I do believe he was morally righteous. One of the few.

[smudger]

Really??

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/column ... -no-values

I picked this one at random, before you start decrying the Express- not a paper I ever read - there are dozens more on Google in the same ilk. Brown was a charleton dressed in sheeps clothing. As are so many socialists.

You only have to look at McDonnell, the true communist dressed in labours clothing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nnell.html

Again, there are dozens of google posts.

[Jimgward]

Really??

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/column ... -no-values

I picked this one at random, before you start decrying the Express- not a paper I ever read - there are dozens more on Google in the same ilk. Brown was a charleton dressed in sheeps clothing. As are so many socialists.

You only have to look at McDonnell, the true communist dressed in labours clothing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nnell.html

Again, there are dozens of google posts.

Haha. Express and Mail.''I'll make some disparaging statements on May and quote the Mirror. I'm sure you'll take me seriously.

Do you know, I really thought conservative voters would simply believe their path was the right one, rather than being so hateful of labour voters, but you're as hateful as any right-wing republican bigot of the word socialist.

[cyprusgrump]

Watch last nights question time. Completely denied. You'd rather believe the DUP?

Believe what you like...

But if you have reached adult age and think that ANY politician wouldn't do a deal with the devil himself to retain power and privilidge then you are a fool my friend...

I have an inbuilt distrust of politicians. However, while Brown was a poor PM, I do believe he was morally righteous. One of the few.

I think he showed his character when the BBC left a live microphone on him and he called that old woman a bigot'....

[smudger]

"Haha. Express and Mail.''I'll make some disparaging statements on May and quote the Mirror. I'm sure you'll take me seriously.

Do you know, I really thought conservative voters would simply believe their path was the right one, rather than being so hateful of labour voters, but you're as hateful as any right-wing republican bigot of the word socialist."

Well you didn't disappoint Jim, totally missing or ignoring my cautionary "I picked this one at random, before you start decrying the Express.......there are dozens more on Google of the same ilk" the old barbs are the best eh Jim??

Can't speak for anyone else but I don't hate Labour voters. Foolish in the extreme they may be, but no reason whatsoever to hate them.

Their leaders may well be another matter. I dislike any who portray themselves as one thing and act as something totally different. As far as I'm concerned Socialism is a completely wasted ideology, dogma, call it what you will. As I've already said, all it does is bankrupt the country.
But just as a random exercise Jim, how many faithful Labour supporters would continue to support their illustrious leaders if they actually nailed their colours to the mast and declared that they were in fact not Socialists, but communists or Marxists??

This is where my hate lies. McDonnell is openly a Marxist, but portraying himself in the recent election as a socialist. Corbyn portrays himself as a socialist but is prepared to lead the country back several decades to union control, dark days of nationalisation, communistic control, communist dogma.

Not only are this pair liars and fantasists, they are prepared to hoodwink their faithful socialist voters into following them not just into a socialist quagmire but a virtual communist controlled UK.

That's why I hate them Jim.

[WHL]

General Election 2010: DUP now being courted by Labour

Watch last nights question time. Completely denied. You'd rather believe the DUP?

Believe what you like...

But if you have reached adult age and think that ANY politician wouldn't do a deal with the devil himself to retain power and privilidge then you are a fool my friend...

True and spot on, well said.

[Poppy]

Pity the author of this cannot spell -- disgusting junk! You should be ashamed of yourself RW

[WHL]

All Politicians are lying scum bags, Chill out folks, their all the same, more fool you for believing them.

[Poppy]

Pity you cannot spell either WHL!

[WHL]

Didn't realize you had been made the forums..Spelling Monitor ..bet you were popular in the classroom, not.