Labour election results 'catastrophic'
Labour election results 'catastrophic'
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39817810
Laura Kuennsberg just interviewed and this is a direct quote to her.
Not that most of us wouldn't have seen, nay predicted this.
The election should be interesting, indeed predictable again?? Unless Corbyn can pull a rabbit out of a hat, and a rabbit preferably, for him, not called Diane.
Really can't believe she did it again!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20356.html
Laura Kuennsberg just interviewed and this is a direct quote to her.
Not that most of us wouldn't have seen, nay predicted this.
The election should be interesting, indeed predictable again?? Unless Corbyn can pull a rabbit out of a hat, and a rabbit preferably, for him, not called Diane.
Really can't believe she did it again!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20356.html
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UKIP.... what happened to them?
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Priceless isn't it...?smudger wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 8:27 pm http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39817810
Laura Kuennsberg just interviewed and this is a direct quote to her.
Not that most of us wouldn't have seen, nay predicted this.
The election should be interesting, indeed predictable again?? Unless Corbyn can pull a rabbit out of a hat, and a rabbit preferably, for him, not called Diane.
Really can't believe she did it again!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20356.html

I've been posting the clip all over the place - who could possibly think of voting for a party that might put her in a position of power???

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Well I don't trust her to sort it out so looks like I'm well and truly stuffed!
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We are where we are, so who would you prefer to be in charge of the government during the upcoming period of the Brexit negotiations?
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Jesus that is unbelievable!smudger wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 8:27 pm http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39817810
Laura Kuennsberg just interviewed and this is a direct quote to her.
Not that most of us wouldn't have seen, nay predicted this.
The election should be interesting, indeed predictable again?? Unless Corbyn can pull a rabbit out of a hat, and a rabbit preferably, for him, not called Diane.
Really can't believe she did it again!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20356.html



Oh my God. I feel sorry for the Labour Party, and their sane MPs. This is what happens when you let the grass root activists have a vote in leadership elections. Nice one Miliband.
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The problem is, I can't imagine her being able to sort it out either.Hudswell wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 11:58 pmWho give a s*** what happened to UKIP, they were never a viable opposition...and nor are labour, the greens, Monster Raving Loony party...lib Dems..they need to sort their stuff out..who would you really trust to sort or the mess? Brexit..can you really imagine anyone else but Ms May being able to sort it out?...
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It's not hard to stand heads above everyone else when the competition are midgets. She was an abject failure as Home Secretary and will be the same as Prime Minister. Putting aside your excuses; she made a total mess of her own making in the Home Office and no doubt there will be more to come. God help our country.Hudswell wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 10:54 amI can, she has risen to the challenge and will make a strong PM, who will get the best deal possible for the UK...people,judge her on her performance as Home Secretary, which I do not believe is fair...she was still "working" for someone else...now she is in charge and can develop the party they way she would like...and she will....she is not the best of a bad bunch....she stands heads above anyone else...she will do well.Dominic wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 9:45 amThe problem is, I can't imagine her being able to sort it out either.Hudswell wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 11:58 pm
Who give a s*** what happened to UKIP, they were never a viable opposition...and nor are labour, the greens, Monster Raving Loony party...lib Dems..they need to sort their stuff out..who would you really trust to sort or the mess? Brexit..can you really imagine anyone else but Ms May being able to sort it out?...
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Diane Abbot's car-crash interview on the Labour losses reminds me of the Monty Python sketch where the Black Knight says "...it's just a flesh wound!" 

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Is this tongue in cheek? Or are you having a pop that Corbyn was elected to Leader by the Grass Roots members of the Labour Party.Dominic wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 9:44 amJesus that is unbelievable!smudger wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 8:27 pm http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39817810
Laura Kuennsberg just interviewed and this is a direct quote to her.
Not that most of us wouldn't have seen, nay predicted this.
The election should be interesting, indeed predictable again?? Unless Corbyn can pull a rabbit out of a hat, and a rabbit preferably, for him, not called Diane.
Really can't believe she did it again!!
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Oh my God. I feel sorry for the Labour Party, and their sane MPs. This is what happens when you let the grass root activists have a vote in leadership elections. Nice one Miliband.
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I wasn't having a pop, I was stating a fact. The activists think they speak for the country. They are clearly deluded.
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I don't know how you can say that. As Home Sec and as PM, so far, she has not shown any strength, only bluster and vacillation, changing her mind as often as her necklaces. Words are meaningless. If she is not the best of a bad bunch, as you state, let's have the best (not that I can think of any current politician who is the best!)Hudswell wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 10:54 am I can, she has risen to the challenge and will make a strong PM, who will get the best deal possible for the UK...people,judge her on her performance as Home Secretary, which I do not believe is fair...she was still "working" for someone else...now she is in charge and can develop the party they way she would like...and she will....she is not the best of a bad bunch....she stands heads above anyone else...she will do well.
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I sadly believe the PM purely called this GE solely for political gain...considering how far ahead the Tories were in the opinion polls. She already had a mandate from parliament. Stating that Parliament was divided whilst the country was united, is in my opinion, a lie of humongous proportions.
We tend to forget that 2 countries out of the 4 that make up the UK, voted to remain, & that 15million eligible voters, for whatever reason, chose not to, or couldn't vote.
As a remainer, I accepted the vote, though still believe I made the right decision, only time will tell, I also thought that out of the bunch available, she was the preferred option.
In calling this GE, she has gone down in my opinion for political opportunism, In a true democracy we NEED a strong opposition,
Trying to wipe out any decent, is therefore, not in the best interest of our country...only the Tory parties.
We tend to forget that 2 countries out of the 4 that make up the UK, voted to remain, & that 15million eligible voters, for whatever reason, chose not to, or couldn't vote.
As a remainer, I accepted the vote, though still believe I made the right decision, only time will tell, I also thought that out of the bunch available, she was the preferred option.
In calling this GE, she has gone down in my opinion for political opportunism, In a true democracy we NEED a strong opposition,
Trying to wipe out any decent, is therefore, not in the best interest of our country...only the Tory parties.
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Oh please!Cogs123 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 2:32 pm I sadly believe the PM purely called this GE solely for political gain...considering how far ahead the Tories were in the opinion polls. She already had a mandate from parliament. Stating that Parliament was divided whilst the country was united, is in my opinion, a lie of humongous proportions.
We tend to forget that 2 countries out of the 4 that make up the UK, voted to remain, & that 15million eligible voters, for whatever reason, chose not to, or couldn't vote.
As a remainer, I accepted the vote, though still believe I made the right decision, only time will tell, I also thought that out of the bunch available, she was the preferred option.
In calling this GE, she has gone down in my opinion for political opportunism, In a true democracy we NEED a strong opposition,
Trying to wipe out any decent, is therefore, not in the best interest of our country...only the Tory parties.
May was holding 'The Corbyn Card' and knew it was likely to expire before the GE if she waited until 2020...
So she has played it now to maximise the benefit to her party from it.
Seriously, anybody that thinks/claims that any other political leader wouldn't have done exactly the same thing in her position is seriously deluded.

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The delusion lies in the expectation of the promises they have made on the Brexit negotiations.
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But that wasn't your complaint...

Your complaint was that she had called the election for political gain.
I merely pointed out that all political leaders would have done the same. Indeed, before the fixed-term parliament act PMs had greater flexibility on when to call the GE. If things were going well or they had a weak opposition then they would go to the country early. If not, leave it until the very end.
It has always been thus.
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cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2017 4:20 pmBut that wasn't your complaint...
Your complaint was that she had called the election for political gain.
I merely pointed out that all political leaders would have done the same. Indeed, before the fixed-term parliament act PMs had greater flexibility on when to call the GE. If things were going well or they had a weak opposition then they would go to the country early. If not, leave it until the very end.
It has always been thus.
I have to agree, her decision was purely tactical, & logically I can't fault it!
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Can I just check Dominic? Are you saying that the activists in the Labour party (i.e. the members) shouldn't have a say in who their leader is to be? That is what democracy is all about isn't it?
If that is you view, who do you think should decide the Labour leader?