Firefly wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:09 pm
If Starmer had stated the truth about his policies, if elected, he wouldn't have been.
He misled the country, and is still doing it, he's a liar and hypocrite, and as such, is unfit to lead our country.
I have often been pulled up on CL and PL, for having opinions on Cyprus, as I don't live there anymore. Food for thought.
Your very selective on politicians who misled the country, let me jog your memory, Bozo Boris, Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss etc etc
Im no fan of Starmer, but if you think politcians tell the truth then you must still believe the moons made of cheese.
Firefly wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:09 pm
If Starmer had stated the truth about his policies, if elected, he wouldn't have been.
He misled the country, and is still doing it, he's a liar and hypocrite, and as such, is unfit to lead our country.
No different than the conservative party did....
They ran the system down, steadily taking everything out and knew full well it was in a mess.
Personally, I reckon they deliberately had no intentions of winning the last election - because they knew they were knee deep in their own sh*te.
Why do you think Wishy Sunak kept hammering the mantra home that taxes would rise if labour got in power?
The new government had nothing to fight with because the taxpayers were already being pushed closer and closer to the tax threshold - those taxpayers who were in the standard tax bracket rather than those who were already on the higher incomes.
There was no option to increase the tax threshold because it meant there would be no way to generate income into the UK at source, so they had to say they were standing by the dates put in place by the previous government and that no changes would be made until that date was reached.
The last time I think, was a post by josef K, on 6th August, '24, 3.51pm.
Well bookmark this thread and the next time anybody says that to you just post a link to it and say that it is swings and roundabouts and you will post what you want.
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I am in no way defending the Tory party, they did not get elected, as they were all talk and no action, but at least they didn't persecute the elderly and sick, as this mob are doing.
As I understand it, the so called 'black hole' was partly the pay increase that this lot gave to the train drivers, not all left by the Tories. As I said in a previous post, our finances would be boosted by the proper handling of illegal immigrants, process and act. But no, still they come in their thousands, are given NHS treatment, housed, given preloaded debit cards, and our own freeze on the streets. The train drivers have benefitted greatly, why? Our money is still being poured abroad, meanwhile the MPs make sure that they are very well rewarded for very little. Businesses will close, or price increases passed on to the good old tax payer, who's already taxed to the hilt.
The whole system stinks, the people who paid in all their working lives get very little in return, and I have no doubt that under this lot, they will get even less. Time will tell.
Now any sensible, thinking person, can see that this lot are just after crippling those who have no way to fight back, the elderly don't have unions, can't strike, nor can the disabled and sick. Farmers likewise, are in no position to go on strike, so it is obvious to me, that the actions are cruel and cowardly, whatever political party you favour, this sort of leadership cannot be condoned.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
I have no wish to be over critical Firefly but I do believe you are spouting a load of vitriolic rubbish.
No one is out to cripple or kill off anyone you are talking out of your backside. It appears this government is trying to put some stability back into the running of the country in spite of Musk, Farage etc stirring it as much as possible to make a name for themselves.
Firefly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:42 pm
I am in no way defending the Tory party.
Yes, I think I get that. Your flag appears to have been well and truly pinned to the mast...
It's certainly not a discussion route I'm prepared to go down any further, particularly as I was also an immigrant when I flitted from UK to Cyprus for 12 years (prior to it being in the EU) and was heartily welcomed by the Cypriots and all of the other multi-nationalities I worked alongside, in the various positions and companies I held.
I was an immigrant too. But I didn't come here illegally on a boat, nor did I get anything from the Cypriot Government. To try and say all immigrants are the same is an inaccurate as saying all humans are the same.
And what about the asylum seekers who were found trying to go home for Christmas? Doesn't that indicate that the system is being exploited?
In all honesty though, everything about politics at the moment seems mad, from all sides. Take the Tories lambasting Labour for not having an inquiry into the rape gangs. If they cared that much, why didn't they have a proper one when they were in power?
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Give it up trying to suggest one political party is better then another in my book they are all self serving lying low life scumbags, not only in the UK, Cyprus or any other part of this World,,
Yes, Dominic, your statement "In all honesty though, everything about politics at the moment seems mad, from all sides"
is quite correct, so you must agree, the UK political scene needs urgent REFORMING otherwise the UK is lost. We can only hope.
Firefly wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:09 pm
He misled the country, and is still doing it, he's a liar and hypocrite, and as such, is unfit to lead our country.
Well that should rule out Farage then
The UK certainly would have had more money if they hadn't chosen to listen to the Brexit promises & lies peddled by some newly reformed leaders.
Fear not though - we've taken back control and the benefits are just on the horizon
Couldn't vote for any of the parties in good conscience.
clive of payia wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:28 am
Yes, Dominic, your statement "In all honesty though, everything about politics at the moment seems mad, from all sides"
is quite correct, so you must agree, the UK political scene needs urgent REFORMING otherwise the UK is lost. We can only hope.
Comedy Gold, if you think the likes of Farage, and Tommy Robinson are the UKs saviours
clive of payia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:54 pm
WHL. The usual non-committal Leftie answer, I ask again whom do you think should be leading the UK? Not too difficult, for you, is it?
I am as far away from being a leftie then you can get,
to answer your question, the UK should be led by the party voted in by the majority of people which voted in a general election, or do you not agree with democratic elections,?
