The new smart SafePass is ready

[galexinda]

In less than three weeks since the decision was made, a new digital tool has been prepared that will give additional potential to pandemic controls. This is the new application created by the Ministry of Research and Innovation which will replace CovPass Cyprus. According to well-informed sources of Kathimerini, the application is ready and is expected to be approved by Google in order to be posted on the Google Play platform from where it will be available for use by citizens.

https://www.paphoslife.com/news/the-new ... s-is-ready

[trevnhil]

I wonder if it will be Mandatory to have the NEW pass. At the moment I am using a paper copy of my vaccination certificate. It has been accepted everywhere but some people ask for ID.

[Kili01]

From what I read about it, the new App would be available on Googleplay. But no mention about it being made available to Mac users on App Store... hopefully that will follow.

Dee

[dodo]

Utter B-------cks
Another Safe pass.
When will this end?
I'll download the app and then I won't get covid
Yippee I cant wait to print more crap off and waste paper and printer ink but hey how. Lol

[trevnhil]

I have found in recent weeks that with the paper proof most places also want ID.
But strangely there are still places with more than 10 shoppers in that don't ask for any proof at all

[WHL]

Utter B-------cks
Another Safe pass.
When will this end?
I'll download the app and then I won't get covid
Yippee I cant wait to print more crap off and waste paper and printer ink but hey how. Lol

Simple solution, don't download it.

[wantoosoon]

It seems like the government's adding further complexity at the wrong time. Cases are dropping and countries around the world are reducing restrictions. There will inevitably be teething problems with this app as there were with the last one. I suspect many won't bother to download yet another app.

The current Safepass system isn't enforced properly anyway. My local minimarket never checks them, and neither do the local restaurants. You can sneak into the big Alphamega without showing a Safepass by using the stairs. The Safepass was always a bit of a blunt tool anyway, both in regard to containing infections and encouraging vaccinations. I wonder if there's any actual evidence that it works?

Either scrap the Safepass entirely or enforce it properly. I don't have faith that the greater functionality of the new app will be used productively or will even work at all!

(Standard disclaimer: I'm triple-vaxxed, Covid is real, I follow the rules, etc.)

[DavidatLWH]

'remember the word "mandatory" is not a legal requirement but purely a strong request.

Suggest you look up the word in a dictionary. e.g. "Seat belts are mandatory" means they are required bye law.

[PhotoLady]

Mandatory
adjective
required by law or mandate; compulsory.

[The Aquila]

If every country on Earth did what China did the world would be riddled with viruses

[galexinda]

I wonder if it will be Mandatory to have the NEW pass. At the moment I am using a paper copy of my vaccination certificate. It has been accepted everywhere but some people ask for ID.

Rest assured Trev - in the new Decree (as it has been in the past)

83. For control purposes in areas where access under this Decree requires the demonstration of either a negative laboratory test (PCR) or a rapid antigen detection test for COVID-19 disease, or a vaccination certificate, or a certificate of recovery from COVID-19, these documents and / or certificates are checked by scanning the QR code of the European Digital Certificate COVID and the check is performed through the electronic application "CovScanCyprus":

It is understood that persons 65 years of age and older,

minors up to 13 years of age,

persons who cannot be vaccinated due to a medical problem who hold and demonstrate a medical certificate issued by the Ministry of Health,

Turkish Cypriots who have been vaccinated in areas of the Republic of Cyprus where The Government does not exercise effective control, and

persons who have been vaccinated in States other than the European Union, the European Economic Area and Switzerland

may display such documents and / or certificates in hard copy instead of the European Digital Certificate.

[galexinda]

As far as Covid in Cyprus is concerned it is the Minister of Health that ultimately makes the decisions - surely it should be put before the government to discuss and decide what measures should be taken?

As it is there is the initial announcement followed by updates later in the day and amendments at a later stage and even then some rules are tweaked before the next official announcement. No wonder most people are so confused and/or frustrated they forget what they are supposed to do/not do.

[Dominic]

I am amazed at how many ridiculous conspiracy theories people are willing to consider these days. May I ask anybody old enough to remember food rationing in WW2 whether similar nonsense was bandied about, or is it a more recent phenomenon? All these governmental masterplans. I remember what happened a few years back when it snowed a bit too much around the M25. People were trapped in their cars for two days. The Government of the time couldn't organise that. Why do people suddenly believe that they can now come up with efficient Global control mechanisms?

[The Aquila]

I am amazed at how many ridiculous conspiracy theories people are willing to consider these days. May I ask anybody old enough to remember food rationing in WW2 whether similar nonsense was bandied about, or is it a more recent phenomenon? All these governmental masterplans. I remember what happened a few years back when it snowed a bit too much around the M25. People were trapped in their cars for two days. The Government of the time couldn't organise that. Why do people suddenly believe that they can now come up with efficient Global control mechanisms?

I think there were the same theories but the carrier pigeon wasn’t as quick as social media is. Also many pigeons got shot so not everyone got their messages

[Dominic]

All Canada shows is that “woke” Governments can be just as tyrannical as anybody else. It is hardly evidence of a conspiracy.

[blueskies209]

A different perspective maybe:

I took two doses of vaccine which resulted in severe neurological issues that still persist after 8 months. Previously a healthy, active, non smoking/drinking 40 odd year old person with no health issues. But since getting the vaccines have spend most of the time searching for help, going around hospitals, doctors, scans and numerous blood tests all at my own expense as NHS doesn't recognize reactions other than anaphylaxis as vaccine side effects.

There are many many people like me who don't get medical/media attention as it is inconvenient for authorities to accept there are life altering and life limiting side effects especially for younger people.

My main reason to take vaccines was to relocate to Cyprus which had been in the plans for a while before pandemic started. But now without a booster there is no possiblity of me getting into supermarket to buy groceries leave alone restaurants/cafes. I already asked and there is no medical exemption from further doses for people like me.

So I threw my health believing the 'science' stated by the authorities who now say we need a third and a fourth and so on doses.

Would worst case of getting Covid have been better for younger healthier people like me? Considering it is a respiratory illness maybe it would not have gone straight to my brain and caused irreversible damage like the vaccines did?

How come vaccines (which normally take over a decade) were developed faster than therapeutics and given emergency approval?

How come me not getting a further dose but still wearing N95 mask when indoors in public spaces is causing infection issues to vaccinated people?

What is the point of further doses and enforcing them with safe passes when vaccines don't stop the vaccinated person from spreading the virus or from getting infected by the virus?

Why is there no mention in media about the surveys that the more doses you take the more likely your chances of getting infected?

[jeba]

Asked about the increasing number of countries lifting Covid-19 mandates – “are they witnessing a different evolution of the pandemic?” – Voniatis replied that they have seen that the record infections are not resulting in a burdening of the healthcare systems.

I´m not quite sure about that. If you look at Denmark, you´ll see a rise in the number of hospitalisations following their "freedom day": https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... QJ6BAgHEAE

[jeba]

Would worst case of getting Covid have been better for younger healthier people like me? Considering it is a respiratory illness maybe it would not have gone straight to my brain and caused irreversible damage like the vaccines did?

There is no reason for that assumption. From what I understood, the prevailing hypothesis is that the "culprit" is the spike protein, which you´d have even more exposure to, following an infection. Which is probably why all the side effects (apart from allergic reactions to components of the vaccines) are more common following infection than they are following the vaccines.

How come vaccines (which normally take over a decade) were developed faster than therapeutics and given emergency approval?

The m-RNA technology has been developed since more than 10 years ago (mainly for cancer treatment). There was simply no reason to use it for vaccinating against corona as long as there was no corona. This argument is a bit like wondering whether your satnav will work well on a route you haven´t been driving before, just because you haven´t used it for that route yet.

What is the point of further doses and enforcing them with safe passes when vaccines don't stop the vaccinated person from spreading the virus or from getting infected by the virus?

To reduce the pressure on the healthcare system.

[PhotoLady]

How many times do you have to have contracted Covid before you can safely say you have achieved herd immunity?

[Dominic]

I´m not quite sure about that. If you look at Denmark, you´ll see a rise in the number of hospitalisations following their "freedom day": https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... QJ6BAgHEAE

Well, whatever.

That's not a very scientific response. If you disregard any evidence that goes against your point of view, you are not being scientific.