Bird trapping: A wildlife crime which simply has no place in a civilised society

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Paphos Life
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Bird trapping: A wildlife crime which simply has no place in a civilised society

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By Martin HellicarIt is coming back, creeping into to an olive grove or acacia thicket near you. Bird trappers are poised and waiting to spread their particular brand of slow death across the countryside again; if indeed they ever truly went away???...

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It brings shame to Cyprus, time the authorities clamped down.
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It's not just Cyprus there are many other EU countries were birds are trapped, Spain France, Malta to name a few. Millions of birds are killed annually using trap nets, lime sticks . Hunting birds by these methods is already banned by European law but doesn't seem to be policed effectively on the island apart from the Soveriegn bases.
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Shameful medaeval pastime, but unfortunately seems entrenched in several Mediterranean countries, not only Cyprus, Unfortunately, there is money to be made from killing songbirds, or Ambellipoulia.as many mainly Cypriots enjoy eating the results..and it is expensive.

Cyprust tends to go through the motions of trying to stop that slaughter of song birds, but only the SBA's with their police force try hard to stop it. But it can be risky trying to arrest people who maybe are caught with loaded shotguns!

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Kili01 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:19 pm Shameful medaeval pastime, but unfortunately seems entrenched in several Mediterranean countries, not only Cyprus, Unfortunately, there is money to be made from killing songbirds, or Ambellipoulia.as many mainly Cypriots enjoy eating the results..and it is expensive.

Cyprust tends to go through the motions of trying to stop that slaughter of song birds, but only the SBA's with their police force try hard to stop it. But it can be risky trying to arrest people who maybe are caught with loaded shotguns!

Dee
Not only the Mediterranean countries who enjoy this shameful medieval pastime of blasting birds out of the sky, the British royal family love doing it also.
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WHL wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 pm
Kili01 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:19 pm Shameful medaeval pastime, but unfortunately seems entrenched in several Mediterranean countries, not only Cyprus, Unfortunately, there is money to be made from killing songbirds, or Ambellipoulia.as many mainly Cypriots enjoy eating the results..and it is expensive.

Cyprust tends to go through the motions of trying to stop that slaughter of song birds, but only the SBA's with their police force try hard to stop it. But it can be risky trying to arrest people who maybe are caught with loaded shotguns!

Dee
Not only the Mediterranean countries who enjoy this shameful medieval pastime of blasting birds out of the sky, the British royal family love doing it also.
All true, but there's no doubt that liming and mist netting are crueller and totally indiscriminate.
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wantoosoon wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:13 pm
WHL wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:37 pm
Kili01 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:19 pm Shameful medaeval pastime, but unfortunately seems entrenched in several Mediterranean countries, not only Cyprus, Unfortunately, there is money to be made from killing songbirds, or Ambellipoulia.as many mainly Cypriots enjoy eating the results..and it is expensive.

Cyprust tends to go through the motions of trying to stop that slaughter of song birds, but only the SBA's with their police force try hard to stop it. But it can be risky trying to arrest people who maybe are caught with loaded shotguns!

Dee
Not only the Mediterranean countries who enjoy this shameful medieval pastime of blasting birds out of the sky, the British royal family love doing it also.
All true, but there's no doubt that liming and mist netting are crueller and totally indiscriminate.

End result the same, Dead birds, its not enough william and kate enjoy a good old shoot up, they have started talking little prince george for a fun day out blasting birds out of the sky,
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WHL wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:25 pm
End result the same, Dead birds, its not enough william and kate enjoy a good old shoot up, they have started talking little prince george for a fun day out blasting birds out of the sky,
No, the end result isn't the same. These illegal, indiscriminate methods (liming, poisoning and mist-netting) kill far more birds far more slowly (often by thirst or starvation) and kill other animals besides. They cannot be targeted.

I'm vegetarian and I don't believe in hunting at all. I'd be happy if it were banned altogether. However, as the author says:
If you go out to shoot birds with a gun, you can – in theory at least – limit both the number and identity of what ends up in your hunting bag. Shooting can be sustainable. Not so with limesticks or nets: there is no way to control how many or what species end up dead.
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wantoosoon wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:54 am
WHL wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:25 pm
End result the same, Dead birds, its not enough william and kate enjoy a good old shoot up, they have started talking little prince george for a fun day out blasting birds out of the sky,
No, the end result isn't the same. These illegal, indiscriminate methods (liming, poisoning and mist-netting) kill far more birds far more slowly (often by thirst or starvation) and kill other animals besides. They cannot be targeted.

I'm vegetarian and I don't believe in hunting at all. I'd be happy if it were banned altogether. However, as the author says:
If you go out to shoot birds with a gun, you can – in theory at least – limit both the number and identity of what ends up in your hunting bag. Shooting can be sustainable. Not so with limesticks or nets: there is no way to control how many or what species end up dead.
End result dead birds,
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If you're a carnivore you eat dead animals.

However, the method of slaughter can be humane or cause unnecessary suffering to the animal, one would hope that most would chose the humane option. That said, I'm sure that we would have a lot more vegans/vegetarians if people had to slaughter animals for their own table.

I would never condone killing or injuring an animal in the name of sport, no matter who is the perpetrator, it's totally unacceptable.
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I suppose there is a difference between blasting everything that flies out of the skies, mist netting and limesticks are the three worst methods of killing birds, since often the birds endure a slow and painful death.
At least in the UK, shoots are closely regulated.These only involve ' game birds' which are raised specially for this sport and are eaten. Usually pheasant and grouse.Unless a person is a true vegan, or a true vegetarian not eating eggs, fish or chicken, (as some occasionally admit doing) all-meat comes from animals, which are raised specially on farms.

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