Sterling doing well!

[Diocletian]

I agree. Although the man concerned is an eminent legal character and certainly not just a bloke down the pub. I await with interest any developments with the proposed UN talks scheduled.

Aside from all of that and to put things back on topic. I expect the Sterling/Euro rate to improve throughout the year. Have a good day.

[WHL]

I agree. Although the man concerned is an eminent legal character and certainly not just a bloke down the pub. I await with interest any developments with the proposed UN talks scheduled.

Aside from all of that and to put things back on topic. I expect the Sterling/Euro rate to improve throughout the year. Have a good day.

I'm sure if someone has the time, they could google ten eminent legal people who would say the opposite, if anyone likes a bet, then bet your house on, no solution forth coming, while this nutter runs Turkey

[Jim B]

Hi Dio, I am a remainer, as Brexit didn't make economic sense to me.............but I respect your view and as we can't change history I prefer to look forward now rather than keep debating the past !

Princebytor

I do appreciate your post and totally agree we should look forward but where I differ in view is that I believe Brexit is taking us backwards.
Funnily enough I was reading an article from the Express about a poll calling for a return to pounds and ounces, not sure if it was a wind up or not.
When I look at what I believe British people are losing:

Erasmus.
Galileo
Able to travel freely
Access to live and work
Access to education
Workers Rights
Human rights
No import costs
And the list goes on.

I can't think of any tangible benefit of Brexit, some are trying to suggest that Brexit gave the UK a head start on the Covid vaccine but is patently untrue as any EU country could have done the same but decided not to cut corners.
I just feel the UK is going backwards and it's affecting my kids and grandkids future.
Sometimes you just have to keep fighting for what you believe in.

Jim

[Diocletian]

Does the UK not have human rights then? News to me!
As for workers rights, there are several EU states that do not even have a minimum wage plus it took 16 years for the EU to adopt Paternity Leave after the UK legislated on it.
We have access to education on a daily basis and some of the worlds best Universities.
We have access to live and work anywhere in the world.

The list goes on

[Jim B]

Does the UK not have human rights then? News to me!
As for workers rights, there are several EU states that do not even have a minimum wage plus it took 16 years for the EU to adopt Paternity Leave after the UK legislated on it.
We have access to education on a daily basis and some of the worlds best Universities.
We have access to live and work anywhere in the world.

The list goes on

Your post is full of half truths and misleading statements as usual. Anyone can do anything if they're rich enough, the EU allows ordinary people to live the dream.

Jim

[Mirek]

The countries currently in the bottom or middle of the list are currently living the dream

The money for that dream is coming from the countries at the top of the list together with funds for the bloated buildings/staff salaries/pensions and benefits for the EU government trough



Not rocket science

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48256318

[Devil]

Your list is already two years out of date. Both Brexit and coronavirus have put it seriously out of kilter.

[Uncle D]

That is really your own fault, I wanted to bring a 2.5 litre over with me in 2006 but decided against it when I saw the duty costs I would have had to pay, illegal or not the tax was there and foolish to ignore.

Why was it my fault, I took on the hit on the chin because the car belonged to my wife and in her eyes was irreplaceable. Maybe you have bigger gonads than me and your wife bows to your commands.

The bottom line is Cyprus joined the EU in 2004 and should have followed EU guidelines.

Thanks for clarifying that, it was your own fault

[Diocletian]

Does the UK not have human rights then? News to me!
As for workers rights, there are several EU states that do not even have a minimum wage plus it took 16 years for the EU to adopt Paternity Leave after the UK legislated on it.
We have access to education on a daily basis and some of the worlds best Universities.
We have access to live and work anywhere in the world.

The list goes on

Your post is full of half truths and misleading statements as usual. Anyone can do anything if they're rich enough, the EU allows ordinary people to live the dream.

Jim

Where on earth are there any half truths or misleading statements?

What on earth does a persons net worth have to do with the ability to travel, or attend a U.K. university or work abroad.

[Mirek]

Your list is already two years out of date. Both Brexit and coronavirus have put it seriously out of kilter.

The figures reflect the reason why perhaps the UK didn't think it was "living the dream" and decided against being part of the EU ?

[Jim B]

Does the UK not have human rights then? News to me!
As for workers rights, there are several EU states that do not even have a minimum wage plus it took 16 years for the EU to adopt Paternity Leave after the UK legislated on it.
We have access to education on a daily basis and some of the worlds best Universities.
We have access to live and work anywhere in the world.

The list goes on

Your post is full of half truths and misleading statements as usual. Anyone can do anything if they're rich enough, the EU allows ordinary people to live the dream.

Jim

Where on earth are there any half truths or misleading statements?

What on earth does a persons net worth have to do with the ability to travel, or attend a U.K. university or work abroad.

If you can't equate having wealth provides opportunities then I think I'm wasting my time. Not everyone has the finance to travel, go to other EU universities or the skills required to work in other countries that require a work visa.

Mirek

There are around 32000 Civil Servants employed by the EU in comparison to about 343,000 in the UK. Not a bad return when the cost was spread between 28 countries.
It appears you prefer to support a government presently being taken to court for creaming off over 11 billion pounds in contracts and giving them to their pals rather than help the people of the likes of Cyprus and Malta who we robbed blind for years or other countries like Poland who we sold out to the Russians at the end of WWII.

JIM

[BOB Peyia]

Thanks for clarifying that, it was your own fault

Sticks and Stones

[Diocletian]

Euro rate yesterday was 1.16. It had risen to 1.17 but fell back at close of play in the Far East market so reported the Sterling Magazine.

[Varky]

JimB,
On the subject of civil servants you failed to include the number of civil servants employed within each of the individual countries. This would have given a more representative comparison. May I suggest selective information?

[Jim B]

JimB,
On the subject of civil servants you failed to include the number of civil servants employed within each of the individual countries. This would have given a more representative comparison. May I suggest selective information?

No, figures given from Google forl EU Commission Civil Servants.Even if you trebled the number it would still be nearly a quarter of a million less than the UK and about 3,700 per member country.


https://ec.europa.eu/info/about-europea ... n-staff_en

Jim

[living the dream]

Treble - no where near and the info is easy to find, I have taken just 10 mins to get the figures below from Wikipedia & Google and thats just 4 countries

France - Civil Servant 1,685,898
Germany - Public servants have considerable social status in Germany. Civil servants are categorized into three groups. Slightly over 2 million are career civil servants, about 3 million are employees and roughly 1.5 million are workers
Spain - 1,200,000 and that was back in 1981, there are more now but no up to date figure
Portugal - 690,494

As Varky stated don't compare the UK to just the EU Commission, as a fair comparison you have to take each countries civil service as a whole - Oh I forgot you always like to skew your point of view in favour of the EU

[Varky]

livingthedream,
Exactly my point. Something that JimB does not seem able to grasp. Maybe because it doesn't fit in with his opinion.

[living the dream]

Unless the point fits JB's narrative he will always bang the same EU drum and TRY to skew any point to fit his usual baseless arguments in the EU's favour. I wonder if JB is a failed magician !!! the art of a magician is diversion and distraction - something JB obviously has never mastered, as no matter how often JB tries to divert the truth to suit his narrative, posters on this site do a bit of a google search and find an opposite point to put across one that generally fits the current news feeds - I wonder if HIC was his glamorous assistant (sorry HIC - I couldn't resist)

[Jim B]

I think the pair of you are seeing something that isn't there, you both should really read back further than just my posts.
Mirek posted about the "bloated EU civil service" to which I pointed out that its size is less than one tenth of the UK civil service; a very innocuous response I would say which doesn't deserve the name calling and insults that are usually part of LTD,s responses to my posts, civility appears to be beyond his capabilities.
By all means point out or post a link to show that my statement is incorrect and I'll hold my hands up and apologise though I doubt I will get the same response.

[living the dream]

I would suggest my responses and many other posters responses are based on the fact we have had to read your constant knocking of the UK its inhabitants and its Government whilst staunchly defending everything EU for the last 4 years. You have even tried to defend the EU's vaccine debacle and tried to dig up any snippet of info that supports your one sided narrative - Even HIC has acknowledged the EU's failings in this issue, and we all know how much HIC loves to bang the EU drum, but what sets HIC apart from you is, he will at times concede a point - you on the other hand will never be convinced of anything other than the EU is this benevolent institution that cannot set a foot wrong is all knowing, always right and never ever wrong.

Im not a great lover of the EU as my previous posts support this likewise my posts also show that I not a great supporter of the current UK Government either. What sets myself and the vast majority of posters on this forum apart from yourself is that we try to post a balanced view on any EU subject posted - something you fail to do leaving yourself constantly open to criticism.