Sky news this morning.

[Jim B]

Im sorry Hudswell but I just see you as living in a dream world (please don't take offence.) I may be cynical but I am certainly not bitter. If you believe all the benifits the whole country received from the EU would have happened anyway then I find that very naive, ok it may have been UK money in the first place but the money was directed where it was needed and not to the South East where most of the money used to go.
When I was growing up the UK wasn't that great; now it may have been great in the Military but outside in industry it wasn't; we weŕe the sick man of Europe with plenty of unemployment and lots of factories closing down. The country as I kèep saying is split, millions think the way I think; I don't believe the country has been as split since the English Civil War. I don't believe either you have a monopoly on the love of our country, I just don't think what you believe in is good for the United Kingdom or it's people.

Jim

[PaphosAL]

It's been mentioned a couple of times in this thread that most of the GC/TC nationals who resettled in the UK would be dual nationalty passport holders.

Just a thought, but why don't the Brits who now permanently live in the RoC (and those who own second homes there) apply for dual nationality as well (if they haven't already done so)? I believe this would be a fairly easy task to accomplish, given the RoC Government's desire to 'weight' the GC population demography against that of the TRNC for eventual peace talks and agreements...

Holding a GC Passport may help protect British expats in Cy if brexit deals are not made as we hope during the next couple of years! What is the current population of British Passport only expats, please? 40,000 - 50,000??

Cheers- AL

[Jim B]

Al
I am presently going down that route for my wife as she is a non EU citizen. Although she legally qualifies it's a very long winded process and apart from the qualifying period there is also the beaurocratic period to add on top. We are nine years and counting at the moment.

Jim

[Jimgward]

Jim, I'd be very surprised if what was happening in UK made the daily news in France! Yet another two way street.

I'd also be surprised if many UK Citizens ever gave a thought to our imperialistic past. Why do you?

I'd also be interested in any evidence that UK news or events regularly appeared on Norwegian, Netherlands or Danish news.

Some broad socialist assumptions here methinks Jim! Any evidence??

Ok, Smudger, me old mate, perhaps now evidence has been provided, you could apologise?

What makes you also think they were socialist assumptions? As they were correct statements, not assumptions, then they are attributable to anyone. Trying to denigrate my post with your attempt at making me out to be something you despise, hasn't added to the debate.

[Jimgward]

Yes Jim, I actually believe it will be worth It....I was on the Fench for the referendum but since the result I have certainly pitched my tent in the leave camp. We are being treated with utter contempt by the EU leadership, who had the oppourtunity to revise the terms of the UKs membership and indeed the terms of all member states when Mr Cameron tried and fail to negotiate, he failed because of the EU's absolute intransigence. And Saying that everything the UK has achieved has been within the EU is quite frankly ridiculous. The Nation is being damaged, but not by its people but by politicians like Mrs Sturgeon and Mr Adams, whose actions are yes, traitorous, and I do not believe that is too strong a word. The latest twist by the EU in regard to Gibralter is reprehensible and clearly demonstrates its lack of understanding in regard to the citizens of the UK.

So, Nicola Sturgeon is a traitor? I haven't heard anything quite so stupid, in such a long time. She is a politician, elected (something May wasn't) with a mandate that she follows (something May doesn't) whether people like that outside Scotland, isn't important to her, nor those who gave her the mandate to follow. She has convictions (something May lacks) and was regarded in the run-up to the last elections, as the most convincing and honest of the leaders. She has 50 MPs in the Werstminster parliament, against UKIP's Zero. She outranks LibDems by some way as well...

She seems to upset many in England, what we might term Nationalists, because...... she is a Scottish Nationalist..... a woman .... and wants something that, how dare she.....

[ApusApus]

So what's the difference between Scotland voting to stay in the Union & Scotland voting the SNP into power ........ surely they wanted to stay in the Union & wanted the SNP to run the country with respect to that!


Shane

[smudger]

Jim there are times when you leave me speechless. This is one of them.

I don't deny for one minute that occasionally news re UK is on other nations TV/media. Just as their news is on our TVs screens occasionally. I don't believe for one moment that either way is so massively more than the other. Quite how you would measure this is beyond me, along with why it's so important to you.

Socialist assumptions Jim because you're very very clearly a dyed in the wool socialist :roll
'trying to denigrate your post..........'sorry Jim, I lost the will to live before I got to the end of the sentence that's why your a dyed in the wool socialist - always right, always in the right, always pressing home your case to the nth degree.......... happily I have another life, stressful tho it may be! It's easier than arguing politics in here over stuff that I don't really give a damn about! And errmm, can't for the life of me see why the heck I owe you an apology, so, no it won't be happening!

[Firefly]

If Sturgeon is such a wonderful leader, why is she riding rough shod over all the Scots who voted to stay in the UK ? she is totally ignoring the majority, and insisting that Scotland vote AGAIN, something Mrs May didn't do, she at least honoured the outcome of the referendum, and good for her. That's why Sturgeon is getting up peoples noses in England, she wants to make it as hard as she can for Brexit, I suspect because she is seeking more power for herself in Scotland, Nicola Queen Of Scots, comes to mind.

Jackie

[PaphosAL]

Did the majority of Scottish voters in last June's brexit Referendum vote to stay in the EU?

[June]

Did the majority of Scottish voters in last June's brexit Referendum vote to stay in the EU?

Yes.

[PaphosAL]

In that case, why bother with another Scottish Referendum? Just unilateraly leave the UK, stay in the EU, and adopt the € as your currency! Do you sweaty socks have any issues with that scenario, I wonder, or are you trying to get the best of both worlds, as in having your cake AND eating it?

[PaphosAL]

@ Lifesabeach: your'e struggling with replying to posts, using the " quote option button, methinks. If Dominic were to trust me with Mod priviledges on PL, I could easily fix such issues, reducing his admin load, and in no way abusing my mod powers EVER!

AL

[Rita Sherry]

Just a thought. I am a citizen of the United Kingdom which consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Please can someone explain why then I, and all citizens of that Union, cannot have a vote in any Scottish Independence Referendum? after all any decision affects me/us too. In my particular case half my family are Scots- Bless em.

I am not, and neither is any other British Citizen a European citizen - The EU is not a FEDERAL STATE (much as certain members therof would like it to be and have harboured visions to that end) it is made up of 28 (presently)Sovereign States who form a Union no more no less.

Rita

[PaphosAL]

Sweaty Socks is an endearment (as you all well know) coming from Cockney rhyming slang meaning Jocks, ie: Scots. Good, now we've got that out of the way, can one or more of you very nice Scottish folk address the actual question I asked above, @ 5.07pm please?

Thanks- AL

[Poppy]

I think you are both being deliberately obtuse because I can certainly see the point Rita is making and regardless of where she now lives,she is,as far as I am aware a british citizen in receipt I presume of British pensions so of course what happens in the UK affects her and quite rightly too, as the Scottish people have their say in British politics then why should we english not have a say in whether or not Scotland should leave the UK.
PS I know you are far more eloquent than me Rita and don' t need me to support your post!

[PaphosAL]

@ Lifesabeach: your'e struggling with replying to posts, using the " quote option button, methinks. If Dominic were to trust me with Mod priviledges on PL, I could easily fix such issues, reducing his admin load, and in no way abusing my mod powers EVER!

AL

Perhaps I am struggling? And, of course, I bow to your superior knowledge, Al, but I was quoting you. Please point out where I misquoted you and I will rectify. (I'm sure you would delete me - if only you could. )

All appears normal now, Lifesabeach. Why on earth would I want to delete you, if I could, may I politely ask?

Cheers- AL

[WHL]

Rita, why would a Tala resident want to have a vote in a Scottish referendum, even if they have family living there? In what ways would it impact you?

Well said

[PaphosAL]

Rita, why would a Tala resident want to have a vote in a Scottish referendum, even if they have family living there? In what ways would it impact you?

Well said

Gor blimey! Are you actually saying that British Passport holders resident in Cyprus, should no longer have a vote / franchise back in the UK?

[Jimgym]

Well all I can say is if Scotland is doing so incredibly well then why don't more people vote for independence? Hopefully ( for Scotland) they will next time.

[Rita Sherry]

Lifesabeach, WHL and dear Road Warrior

Because the UNITED KINGDOM (all of it) is my country and I care for it very deeply with no desire or wish to see it broken up any of it. Two of you do not appear to understand my point so there it is. My stay in Cyprus is not and will not be permanent. My late husband was a Scot (born in Oban) as were all his forebears and I would be very very sad indeed to see Scotland move away.

I have voted in every UK election I was entitled to since I was eligible to vote, including whilst I have been in Cyprus, and can only reiterate what I have already said "why am I denied the right to vote on an issue which affects MY COUNTRY" When I last looked England was still part of the UNION along with the other component countries. Please read what I said not what you think I said.

Road Warrior - Whilst I disagree with your views on this topic I respect your right to express them and have no quarrel with you whatsoever. I am however surprised you should be surprised what Jeremy Corbyn said during the campaign. In all the more than 30years he has been in Parliament he has never once voted in favour of any EU matter nor did Wedgwood Benn both were famously or infamously anti EU. Thats a checkable fact.

Rita