Could Brexit signal the end of the road for second-home owners in Europe?

[Diocletian]

Spend €20 and get an MEU1 or UK1, problem solved. Different nationalities have had second homes for centuries. It is not something that developed in the EU period.

[Kili01]

Time will tell how this 90 day s in 6 months rule will work out, As a matter of interest do other non EU nationals who own property here, currently come here for shorter holidays in their property here? Does anyone know? Or are we all guessing.......

Dee

[Jim B]

Time will tell how this 90 day s in 6 months rule will work out, As a matter of interest do other non EU nationals who own property here, currently come here for shorter holidays in their property here? Does anyone know? Or are we all guessing.......

Dee

We have a number of Russian friends and they have had to apply for an MU2, like all British will have to do in January as TCNs. The criteria for an MU2 is much stricter than an MU1.
It isn't easy as Diocletian suggests because when an MU2 applicant leaves Cyprus they have to reapply for an entry Visa until the MU2 is issued before they return to Cyprus. It took us one year to get my wife's MU2 which was only valid for 1 year.
Another point is the time allowed is a "Maximum" of 90 days in 180 so if one spends only a week in Cyprus they have to wait 173 days before they can return. As I said the Visas stamped in a TCN passport have no entry or exit date .

Jim

[Diocletian]

It is my understanding that there has always been a 90 day rule even before the EU existed. As for securing an MEU1 for a UK citizen by the 31st of this Month, There are protocols in place through the Withdrawal Agreement between the UK and the EU. These yellow slips, can and will be, obtainable by UK citizens up to June 2021 as long as you are in the process by the end of this month. The stark difference between an MEU permission and the new UK permission is the fact that the UK permissions have a five year lifespan.

[Jim B]

Diocletian
You are correct regarding the 90 day rule, as said earlier I had to deal with this when bringing family over and also when travelling throughout Europe with my wife.
TCNs are treated quite differently from EU Citizens; I will be surprised to find after January 1st that it's still a 20 minute chat down at Immigration and then come out with an MU1. I would guess people will be issued with a UK1 which is really a rebadged MU2. Although we applied for an MU2 in Paphos all the processing was done in Nicosia so any communication was done through there and nobody ever answers the phone.
To do what you're suggesting is a big ask, there's about 15 working days left to get sorted, get a flight (for many) which are very limited and an appointment which is also very difficult at the moment.

Jim

[Diocletian]

That's true Jim which is why I suspect that they have factored in a time scale that extends to June next year.

[Jim B]

The timescale as I understand it (I may have misunderstood it) is to allow for those who have applied prior to the 1st January to have their documentation processed though I cant really see any sensible reasoning behind it as the aim appears to put us all on UK1 (MU2) and a restricted to 10 years UK3. (MU3).

Jim

[WHL]

Some these people who are moaning now ,probably voted for Brexit, well done chaps

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... dache.html

[Princebytor]

One interesting dynamic from the change will be if British people who settled in Cyprus and have acquired their residency rights will begin to call themselves immigrants rather than ex-pats. The term ex-pat is short for someone who is living outside their native land and is usually taken to apply to people living outside their native land on a temporary basis.I wonder if the term British Immigrant community will catch on.................I doubt it !!!

[Uncle D]

One interesting dynamic from the change will be if British people who settled in Cyprus and have acquired their residency rights will begin to call themselves immigrants rather than ex-pats. The term ex-pat is short for someone who is living outside their native land and is usually taken to apply to people living outside their native land on a temporary basis.I wonder if the term British Immigrant community will catch on.................I doubt it !!!

Immigrant is the correct term to use anyway, the British arrogantly came up with the word 'expat' to differentiate themselves from what they deem to be lesser immigrants

[Dominic]

I describe myself as an immigrant, and am happy to do so.

[WHL]

One interesting dynamic from the change will be if British people who settled in Cyprus and have acquired their residency rights will begin to call themselves immigrants rather than ex-pats. The term ex-pat is short for someone who is living outside their native land and is usually taken to apply to people living outside their native land on a temporary basis.I wonder if the term British Immigrant community will catch on.................I doubt it !!!

Immigrant is the correct term to use anyway, the British arrogantly came up with the word 'expat' to differentiate themselves from what they deem to be lesser immigrants

Spot on

[WHL]

From day one, every person on Planet Earth, is an immigrant one way or another,
I am an Immigrant to Cyprus who happily lives here, but I like to class myself as a citizen of the World.

Albert Einstein described himself as a world citizen and supported the idea throughout his life famously saying "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind

[Princebytor]

Fully agree guys, but I am sure that there are 'ex pats' around that hold some pretty obnoxious views about immigrants and if they were called immigrants themselves they may come to realise the absurdity of their stance

[WHL]

Fully agree guys, but I am sure that there are 'ex pats' around that hold some pretty obnoxious views about immigrants and if they were called immigrants themselves they may come to realise the absurdity of their stance

I agree, got to laugh when you sometimes speak to expats here, especially when we were discussing Brexit, and the conversation is about the demise of the UK, too many immigrants living in their own neighbour hoods, never learning to speak English, not integrating, blah blah blah, says the Brexit loving brit who lives in a English neighbour hood and after living here for many years, cant be bothered to learn any Greek , doesn't intergrate, the Irony is lost on these fools.

[Uncle D]

Yes and most of them voted brexit

[Kili01]

Any Brit expat who voted blindly for Brexit, could be compared to a Turkey voting for Christmas...
Dee

[Jimgym]

Yes and most of them voted brexit

I’d love to read the proof to back up your assertion please.

[Jimgym]

I wonder if those who voted Remain did so in the knowledge they would be stopping those lucky enough to own second homes in France from paying tax on the sale

[Uncle D]

Yes and most of them voted brexit

I’d love to read the proof to back up your assertion please.

Actually I should have put probably Jim, I am glad that you are back