Martin McGuinness Dead

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Re: Martin McGuinness Dead

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I won't defend McGuiness but it was acknowledged at Saville that no evidence of any shot at the paratroopers happened. McGuiness and others also denied, although most won't accept his evidence.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... html%3Famp

At Bloody Sunday, the paratroop regiment executed innocents and probably caused a huge acceleration of the troubles. The British forces then backed Protestant paramilitaries who murdered in their name. Google Shani hill butchers as an example.

While I don't doubt most foxes personnel were honest, moral and under duresss, many of their leaders crossed lines.
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Devil wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:25 am But not a single word on that equally evil man, the late Ian Paisley. What was worse with him is that he claimed to be a man of God, a total murdering (by proxy) hypocrite.

What we forget is that, in any conflict, there are two sides, both of which are evil. NI was no exception. The tragedy is that the UK was embroiled in it, since William III and the battle of the Boyne, and therefore became one of the evil-doers, over centuries.

I take no sides because both were evil and wrong. Just think of the provocation engendered by the Orange Day parades, even today.

I'm aware that this post will not be popular, but just reflect on why it isn't.
Thanks. Good balanced view.
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Hudswell wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:49 pm
Jimgward wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:23 pm I won't defend McGuiness but it was acknowledged at Saville that no evidence of any shot at the paratroopers happened. McGuiness and others also denied, although most won't accept his evidence.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... html%3Famp

At Bloody Sunday, the paratroop regiment executed innocents and probably caused a huge acceleration of the troubles. The British forces then backed Protestant paramilitaries who murdered in their name. Google Shani hill butchers as an example.

While I don't doubt most foxes personnel were honest, moral and under duresss, many of their leaders crossed lines.
That's the problem with Asymmetric warfare, the lines get blurred, and being the good guy quite often sets you up for a fall...or indeed innocents. McGuinness and his "friends" showed no mercy, happily targeting innocents in order to spread their special brand of fear. You reap what you sow. And the British Army was pretty even handed in dealing with all terrorist groups...
Really? It only armed one side. Only provided intelligence to one side. None should be supported.
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Re: Martin McGuinness Dead

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I for one will never forget the horrific sights of the Hyde Park bombing, the sheer evil slaughter of men and horses. The lasting horrors of bombings in the UK of innocent women and children. My friend loosing her brother, a British Soldier, when he was ambushed and murdered by the IRA. Another friend who went through hell every time it was announced that a British Soldier had died in Ireland, when her husband was stationed there in the 60s.

I'm glad he's dead, he should have suffered as his victims did, but I doubt it.

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