Labour Party a "Government in Waiting" - JC

[Royal]

I am certainly no fan of Labour, - much less of Jeremy Corbyn, but, unfortunately, many of the kids of today, the students and those many people who cannot afford to get onto the housing ladder are behind him. I don't think that he's exaggerating too much in thinking that he could be the next PM. I shudder to think of the consequences!

Jeremy Corbyn has said Labour is now "the political mainstream" and stands "on the threshold of power".
Closing Labour's conference in Brighton, he said people's views were changing, leaving his party as the "real centre of gravity".
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41408150

[Poppy]

Oh I certainly hope not! It does seem now though that he is reneging on many of his promises and he has offered very little at all to the WASPI ladies who I think really believed in his promises but they are as empty as his promises to students. Surely people can see through this?

[Devil]

Before criticising Corbyn, look at what the Tories have done in the past year, bugger-all! Both Parties have their faults and their virtues but the balance is changing from a leaderless party with internal discord to a strong leadership which is now showing unity (with a little u!).

[Uncle D]

Oh I certainly hope not! It does seem now though that he is reneging on many of his promises and he has offered very little at all to the WASPI ladies who I think really believed in his promises but they are as empty as his promises to students. Surely people can see through this?

If he gave the WASPI ladies his full support, would that sway you to vote labour?

[ApusApus]

I think one age group will but unfortunately another one won't!


Shane

[Jimgym]

Shouldn't this thread be amalgamated with the septic tank one?!

[Royal]

Shouldn't this thread be amalgamated with the septic tank one?!

[Poppy]

And Emily Thornberry having a cheap jibe at Boris about his personal life is shocking IMHO. Take whatever swipes you wish at their policies and political opinions but to make veiled insinuations about his family is not on. She deserves to be severely rebuked. Horrible woman!
Sorry Uncle D only just seen your question to me. Personally I don't expect any politician to support WASPI because I don't think they have a case but he made them promises before the election and has now reneged on those so whatever he did would not make me vote for him no way,never!!

[WHL]

Reading the Venomous posts on here from the usual suspects , I think Corbyn will get my vote next time

[Varky]

Let's face it. The labour party might think they are a party 'in waiting', but they have another 5 years to wait. I can't see the Tories advocating another general election in the meantime or a vote of no-confidence succeeding. I am not a supporter of the Tories, but I think I am a realist.

[exodus]

Let's face it. The labour party might think they are a party 'in waiting', but they have another 5 years to wait. I can't see the Tories advocating another general election in the meantime or a vote of no-confidence succeeding. I am not a supporter of the Tories, but I think I am a realist.

I am also a realist.
The DUP MPs prop up the Conservative Govt.
If the Govt. cannot resolve the Bombardier dispute and there is a vote of "no confidence" in the Commons, will the DUP support the Govt?
I doubt it - and Corbyn gets his General Election.
Amos.

[Uncle D]

Sorry Uncle D only just seen your question to me. Personally I don't expect any politician to support WASPI because I don't think they have a case but he made them promises before the election and has now reneged on those so whatever he did would not make me vote for him no way,never!!

Thanks for your reply Poppy, no offence, but I suppose that you are already in receipt of your state pension.

[Poppy]

No offence taken Uncle D and you are quite right that I am in receipt of my pension. I was born in 1949 so was one of the last ones to receive my pension at 60 so I do realise how lucky I am! However I also remember all the media hype back in 1995 and I was well aware of the changes and had worked out even then that I was going to be one of the lucky ones. So a lot of people were just burying their heads in the sand. Although I do believe that everyone should have been contacted individually. What I find so totally wrong is the 2011 act when ladies born in 1953 especially it made such a huge difference to your SPA depending on what month you were born! That to me is terrible. The WASPI ladies however are wanting this bridging loan because they are saying that had they been advised of the changes then they would have had time to save to be able to retire early. I doubt very few of them would as the monthly payments to be able to retire 6 years early would have been unaffordable to most women.

[Jimgward]

I am not a fan of Corbyn's management - however he does have many morally good ideas and his heart is in the right place. He won't succeed and I'm not confident he could deliver. His stance on Nuclear weapons I agree with, as I do with having an armed forces for defence only. Our record since WWII is nothing to be proud of, with Blair's Iraq and then Afghanistan being almost war crimes.

However, as to the Anti-Semitic claims.... There may well be anti-semitists in the party.... I don't know...

However, being anti-Israeli policies and anti-zionist is NOT anti-semitic and MOST labour voters would be against the present policies of Israel with regard to the Arabs and Coptic Christians within Jerusalem, Israel, the West bank and Gaza. Israel is quire frankly, a disgusting state when it comes to their treatment of non-Jews. Nobody every accuses them of being anti-Christian or anti-Muslim..... but they are.

[Varky]

Let's face it. The labour party might think they are a party 'in waiting', but they have another 5 years to wait. I can't see the Tories advocating another general election in the meantime or a vote of no-confidence succeeding. I am not a supporter of the Tories, but I think I am a realist.

I am also a realist.
The DUP MPs prop up the Conservative Govt.
If the Govt. cannot resolve the Bombardier dispute and there is a vote of "no confidence" in the Commons, will the DUP support the Govt?
I doubt it - and Corbyn gets his General Election.
Amos.

Do you really think that the DUP would forego their £2 Billion for a cause that the Tories could lay at Trump's door with the expectation that JC would get into power and bang goes their windfall?

[panoscouse]

OH! Jer A Me Cor Bin.
OH! Jer A Me Cor Bin.
OH! Jer A Me Cor Bin.
OH! Jer A Me Cor Bin.

When was the last time the british public had a song for a politician?
( the song for maggie doesn't count because that was against).

Viva la revolution.

For the many not the few.
Ragged trousered philanthropists need not apply.

[outasite]

Not the British public, the labour party conference had a song, not a song a chant for your esteemed leader, Panoscouse.
And that was a copy of a chant for a darts player.
By all means let's vote in your leader and almost count the hours until our country becomes a basket case with debts that dwarf Greece, to pay for his "promises".
Personally I hope he gets a Kinnocking and disappears.

[exodus]

Let's face it. The labour party might think they are a party 'in waiting', but they have another 5 years to wait. I can't see the Tories advocating another general election in the meantime or a vote of no-confidence succeeding. I am not a supporter of the Tories, but I think I am a realist.

I am also a realist.
The DUP MPs prop up the Conservative Govt.
If the Govt. cannot resolve the Bombardier dispute and there is a vote of "no confidence" in the Commons, will the DUP support the Govt?
I doubt it - and Corbyn gets his General Election.
Amos.

Do you really think that the DUP would forego their £2 Billion for a cause that the Tories could lay at Trump's door with the expectation that JC would get into power and bang goes their windfall?

1. The £2 billion was actually £1.5 billion, and non-refundable.
2. So YES, that is the risk (JC gets into power).
IMHO
Amos.

[Varky]

I am also a realist.
The DUP MPs prop up the Conservative Govt.
If the Govt. cannot resolve the Bombardier dispute and there is a vote of "no confidence" in the Commons, will the DUP support the Govt?
I doubt it - and Corbyn gets his General Election.
Amos.

Do you really think that the DUP would forego their £2 Billion for a cause that the Tories could lay at Trump's door with the expectation that JC would get into power and bang goes their windfall?

1. The £2 billion was actually £1.5 billion, and non-refundable.
2. So YES, that is the risk (JC gets into power).
IMHO
Amos.

1. Pedantic
Of course it's non-refundable (once paid), but has it been paid yet or will it be paid over a period of time, so guaranteeing DUP support. Do you know? I don't. It will be all subject to the agreement signed by both parties and might be conditional upon unconditional support for the government.

In any case I think the next General Election is a long way off.

[ApusApus]

In any case I think the next General Election is a long way off.

I hope so!


Shane