High speculation Turkey's Erdogan to announce northern Cyprus annexation on July 20

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Paphos Life
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High speculation Turkey's Erdogan to announce northern Cyprus annexation on July 20

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Speculation is ripe that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will announce the annexation of the breakaway northern part of Cyprus in a couple of weeks. Specifically, on July 20 when the invasion of Turkey in Cyprus back in 1974 is marked ??? in a celebratory mood in the Turkish-held north. ...

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Re: High speculation Turkey's Erdogan to announce northern Cyprus annexation on July 20

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Depressing if true, and there's no telling what might follow politically or even militarily. It's the kind of thing that authoritarian populist politicians do when their popularity ratings drop and the economy crashes.

While there are arguments to be had about the 1974 invasion, and there are some otherwise-sensible people who support the occupation, an official annexation surely cannot be justified by anyone other than Turkish nationalists.

The Cyprus Problem is probably insoluble for various reasons, but annexation would make that a certainty. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen!
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Turkey has already annexed the illegal occupied north of Cyprus for the last forty odd years, formalizing it will just bring more problems internationally etc for them, but then again when did Dictators give a sh*t.
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Re: High speculation Turkey's Erdogan to announce northern Cyprus annexation on July 20

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I apologise if I'm being a bit dense here but does anyone know if this move would have any implications for us travelling to the North and Turkey?
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sued51 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:27 pm I apologise if I'm being a bit dense here but does anyone know if this move would have any implications for us travelling to the North and Turkey?
Im guessing if Turkey carried out that threat, then every crossing point would be shut down, and quite rightly so in my opinion,

One other thing only this week the pseudo government in the north were asking the republic to give it electricity because their masters haven't got a pot to piss in , no cash to buy fuel for their power stations, interesting times ahead, you made your bed and all that jazz.
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Very sad if this happens.But does anyone remember the 'Annan Plan' which so nearly was agreed between Glafcos Clerides and the then Turkish Cypriot leader and backed by the UN, Greece, UK and Turkey.? It was defeated at the last moment when Tassos Papadopoulos won the General Election in the Republic, backed by the Archbishop. Just 1 month before it would have come into effect, just before Cyprus as a whole would have joined the EU.
If this had been adopted with hindsight, under its provisions most of those people by now would have gat their homes and lands back. Both Turkish and Greek Cypriots.
The whole situation here in Cyprus might have been so different now.
I know that some people did not and will not agree, but arguably this offered the best chance to solve the 'Cyprus Problem' by reuniting the whole island, under the supervision of the UN.

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sue'd, who knows? If Turkey carries out its threat under its present dictator, we will be told.
The crossings may shut either temporarily or for the foreseeable future.
I hope it doesn't happen, as both sides need cross border trade.

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Kili01 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:48 am Very sad if this happens.But does anyone remember the 'Annan Plan' which so nearly was agreed between Glafcos Clerides and the then Turkish Cypriot leader and backed by the UN, Greece, UK and Turkey.? It was defeated at the last moment when Tassos Papadopoulos won the General Election in the Republic, backed by the Archbishop. Just 1 month before it would have come into effect, just before Cyprus as a whole would have joined the EU.
If this had been adopted with hindsight, under its provisions most of those people by now would have gat their homes and lands back. Both Turkish and Greek Cypriots.
The whole situation here in Cyprus might have been so different now.
I know that some people did not and will not agree, but arguably this offered the best chance to solve the 'Cyprus Problem' by reuniting the whole island, under the supervision of the UN.

Dee
With respect you should try and do a bit of research, before posting about the Anna plan, what you have posted is a load of Rubbish and far far from reality.,
The Greek Cypriot side rejected the plan because at the last moment Turkeys Dictator Erdogan demanded a dozen changes to what had been agreed by the parties, this demand was accepted at the last minute, in simple terms 'Turkey along with the UN had Screwed the Greek Cypriots, no president could accept these terms ( by the way there was no Archbishop at the talks)
and finally does any one in the World really think the Turkish side led by a Dictator, think that the Turks would of implemented the terms of the agreement, IE force Turks out of Greek Cypriot houses in many years to come, not a chance

from Wiki
On 26 March Ambassador Uğur Ziyal of Turkey's Foreign Ministry gave a list of "Final Points" to de Soto with the demand that the changes requested therein be made by the UN team. When the Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan arrived in Bürgenstock on 29 March, he was informed by Annan that nine of his eleven "points" had been agreed to by the UN team, and that the other two were virtually met.[47] That this was the case became clear when Annan Plan IV was presented to the two sides on 29 March, and the Turkish side leaked Ziyal's document.[48]

The delegations were asked by Annan to provide him with their comments on Annan IV, which contained "numerous amendments, including changes on core issues and reopening substantial trade-offs, previously agreed" within less than 24 hours so that he could finalise the Plan.[49] The final plan, Annan Plan V, was tabled on 31 March. It met all of Turkey's demands. In presenting it Kofi Annan said:
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