AlanJimgym wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:26 pmJim, I disagree and this discussion would not be taking place if Remain had won. I can post many Project Fear prophesies that were blatant lies, and I think we all know Project Fear was real, not some figment of Leave voters imagination.Jim B wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:23 pmI disagree Alan, the timing of the referendum was crucial; the Tories took a pasting in the following General Election when May lost her massive majority. If Brexit was the B all and end all for the people they would have followed on by supporting the Tories or UKIP but they didnt; May lost her majority and UKIP all but disappeared from the political scene, many people used their vote in the referendum to vote against austerity and then did it again in the GE.Jimgym wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:40 pm
It's irrelevant when the vote came, people were given the information and they voted. The result needs to be implemented, there should be no argument with that. Many politicians went on record at the time to say just that, yet they are now reneging. Most remainers won't accept it yet expect those who voted leave to agree to a second referendum.Why on earth should we? We had one, Remainers thought they were going to win and are still coming to terms with the fact they badly misjudged things. I don't always like the result of democracy but I have to accept it, along with everyone else.
You are right in that Remain badly misjudged things but most feel they were stitched up by lies and fraud and that's why they refuse to accept the result.
As said we can argue these points till we're blue in the face but if we want to move on we have to grasp the nettle.
As for Project Fear, jobs are being lost, factories are closing, value of the pound about 12% down and cost of living (according to my Brexit Sister) is going up weekly so it's turning out to be prophetic.
Jim
Instead of promoting the many benefits of the EU, Remain ran a negative campaign on the pitfalls of leaving which was a total disaster.
I would be interested to know which of the Project Fear prophesies you consider were lies even though Brexit hasn't happened yet?
Jim