'Never has so much been lost by so many to satisfy so few' - Sturgeon uses Churchill to slam Brexit

[OhSusana]

bbc online reporting

In 2014, we were told we had to reject independence to protect our place in Europe.
Today, we face warnings of medicines shortages, grounded aeroplanes, gridlock at ports and a haemorrhaging of investment.
They’ve even appointed a Minister for Food Supplies, for goodness sake.
We haven’t had one of those since Winston Churchill was Prime Minister.
Conference
It brings to mind those immortal Churchill words about the sacrifices of the RAF in World War 2 -
“Never was so much owed by so many to so few.”
Well when the history books tell the story of this Tory government, selfishly driving the UK towards a hard Brexit just to appease its own ideologues, the verdict will be damning.
Never has so much been lost by so many to satisfy so few.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-45788463
No doubt that the Brexit mess is helping bolster support for Scottish independence.

[Dominic]

Quoting Churchill? That's a dangerous thing to do in this day and age...

https://www.indy100.com/article/astrona ... er-8575146
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NB: I in no way endorse the sentiments in the link I posted. It's a load of danglies.

[OhSusana]

Quoting Churchill? That's a dangerous thing to do in this day and age...

But she lead into it very nicely.
"a Minister for Food Supplies..."

Such are the current times! ))

[Rita Sherry]

What I find difficult to understand about Mrs Sturgeon is her life time ambition to take Scotland out of the Union with the United Kingdom but wishes Scotland to remain/join with the European Union - either Scotland wants independence or it does not - somewhat contradictory me thinks. Before anyone jumps on me from a great height all my in laws are Scots and voted and will continue to vote against breaking from the Union.

Rita

[Dominic]

Being a member of the UK and a member of the EU are not the same at all though.

[tyelaw47]

No of course they are not the same but it appears to me that Scotland is frustrated by their lack of autonomy within the UK. Surely if they achieved their independence and somehow managed to remain in the EU( which is doubtful in the extreme) they would be just as frustrated if not more so by the EU restrictions.They have already defaulted on payments that were due to the EU. I personally believe they are too small,with a poor government that appears to go against everything the UK government do, to go it alone

[outasite]

Perhaps she wants to remain in the EU to jump on the gravy train of free handouts that seem to be the norm for the poorer nations who are members. If she does get her way and doesn't get to join the EU then where on earth will her revenue come from?

[WHL]

Perhaps she wants to remain in the EU to jump on the gravy train of free handouts that seem to be the norm for the poorer nations who are members. If she does get her way and doesn't get to join the EU then where on earth will her revenue come from?

North sea Oil /gas,,Tourism., Textiles,, fishing,, whiskey.. just to name a few.

[Jimgward]

If you cannot see the difference between rule by London - which is Southern Centric in all aspects - ask any Northerner - to membership of the EU and still having Sovereignty - estimated at 80% within the EU - then ....

As to 'surviving' - if you compare Ireland .....
In 1922 they had a GDP per capita that was 50% of that of the UK.
Leaving the UK would have looked like madness. Almost all of Ireland's exports went to the rest of the UK before independence too.

In 2017 the Republic of Ireland's GDP per capital is 174% that of the UK.

It may have taken generations for the "Celtic Tiger' to rise, but nobody could fail to appreciate how well they do...

[Devil]

Not Churchill granted, but this chap expressed his point of view pretty eloquently too: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/millionaire-p ... 34775.html

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I have no desire to let Yahoo access my device, use my data, know where I live, understand my interests, send me ads and find out whether I read them or not. Hard lines, Charlie Mullins, I have not read you!

[tyelaw47]

You have a very strange sense of humour if you think it OK to display obscenities on buildings. Particularly offensive in my opinion.
I wonder if you would consider displaying it on your company building HIC?

[tyelaw47]

But why did you feel the need to be the messenger? I don't care to reflect on any obscenities by anyone and I have no idea what you mean by "your camp"
I ask you again,would you display those obscenities on your work premises? If not then why do you feel the need to post them on here and believe they are eloquent?

[tyelaw47]

I think you may have missed my post which stated that I actually voted for Remain although I admit to changing my mind but I am not in any camp as you like to put it. You really cannot answer a straightforward question can you? You do not need an electronic billboard to display a message do you?
I did not ask you if you would allow an advertiser to display that message.I merely asked if you would.

[Dominic]

It's a lot less offensive than driving a bus around with huge whoppers written on the side of it, or Farage's charming "Breaking Point" poster.

[Jim B]

Tyelawe
Why don't you Google the word that offends you and find out it's meaning; its a Middle England word. I see words posted on here that in my home city are grossly offensive but accept in other areas of the country are not seen in the same context but I don't have a hissy fit over it.
For someone who purportedly to have voted remain you are very vociferous in the defence of Brexit; just saying

Jim

[tyelaw47]

I am quite aware of the meaning of the word thanks Jim and if you support HIC in his view that it is eloquent then so be it.I disagree.

[Jim B]

Tyelawe
Where did I say it was elequent?

Jim

[tyelaw47]

You didn't.HIC did.

[Rita Sherry]

Tyelaw
Why don't you Google the word that offends you and find out it's meaning; its a Middle England word. I see words posted on here that in my home city are grossly offensive but accept in other areas of the country are not seen in the same context but I don't have a hissy fit over it.
For someone who purportedly to have voted remain you are very vociferous in the defence of Brexit; just saying

Jim

My words of thanks are in error - I agree with tyelaw - Mr Mullins is within his right to express an opinion but not, in my opinion, to place offensive, to the majority of us, inflamatory advertisements throughout the Capital or anywhere else come to that. Resorting to such language shows a definite lack of useful command of the English language which is neither necessary or appropriate however in vogue in may be perceived to be - nor is it clever.

Rita

[Rita Sherry]

Being a member of the UK and a member of the EU are not the same at all though.

Scotland is not a "member" of the United Kingdom it is a country which comprises the whole of the United Kingdom which presently is a member of the European Union no more no less. Ask the Catalonians or even Spain itself their view on the matter of seperation - unlikely the latter will accept it is not the same. Should Scotland (with permission) vote to break away from the United Kingdom Spain will vote against its application to be a member of the EU for very obvious reasons.

Rita