Cyprus's Offshore Gas Finds

[exodus]

I was interested to note from the local media that the oil Companies exploring for gas offshore have urged caution
about the financial outcomes of such huge finds - and they are huge.
Mainly because of the cost of exploiting these reserves, cf. the current world market price of natural gas.
Bearing in mind the water shortage, would it not make sense to use some of these reserves to fuel desalination plants, and
the rest sold (maybe at a lower price than normal) to fund the capital expense of such plants?
I have still not found out why the desalination plant near Paphos, manufactured in Israel, lies idle.
Amos.

[Kili01]

In a nut shell. It isn’t idle, it was removed when the contract on which it had been hired finished. The previous Mayor had decided that the cost of maintaining it wasn’t justifed.
What a stupid decision as it has turned out.

Dee

[Jimgym]

In a nut shell. It isn’t idle, it was removed when the contract on which it had been hired finished. The previous Mayor had decided that the cost of maintaining it wasn’t justifed.
What a stupid decision as it has turned out.

Dee

Perhaps the previous Mayor wasn't getting big enough kickbacks?

[ApusApus]

The following article throws some light on the matter

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Water+do ... 0348387860

A new desalination plant is to be built next year & this will guarantee Paphos drinking water supplies for the foreseeable future!


Shane

[exodus]

Thanks for those replies explaining about the Paphos desalination plant.
Desalination is the way forward here, just as it has been in other Near/Middle East States.
Amos.

[exodus]

Mobile desalination plants are so much more economical and can be located in an area where it is most needed and moved around as and when required

In which case, in view of the imminent water shortage, why doesn't the Cyprus Govt order some?
They will have plenty of gas to power them.
Pity they couldn't do a deal with the occupied territory's Administration to share some of their water brought over from Turkey by undersea pipeline; they have so much coming in down that pipe they are running about 20% off into the sea!
Amos.

[WHL]

Mobile desalination plants are so much more economical and can be located in an area where it is most needed and moved around as and when required

In which case, in view of the imminent water shortage, why doesn't the Cyprus Govt order some?
They will have plenty of gas to power them.
Pity they couldn't do a deal with the occupied territory's Administration to share some of their water brought over from Turkey by undersea pipeline; they have so much coming in down that pipe they are running about 20% off into the sea!
Amos.

Do you have a link for that information please

[exodus]

Mobile desalination plants are so much more economical and can be located in an area where it is most needed and moved around as and when required

In which case, in view of the imminent water shortage, why doesn't the Cyprus Govt order some?
They will have plenty of gas to power them.
Pity they couldn't do a deal with the occupied territory's Administration to share some of their water brought over from Turkey by undersea pipeline; they have so much coming in down that pipe they are running about 20% off into the sea!
Amos.
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Do you have a link for that information please
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It was reported in the north Cyprus news:
www.lgcnews.com
You can search there, in the search box type in: "water from turkey".
They have pictures of it running out into the sea - a few weeks or so ago.
Amos.

[WHL]

Mobile desalination plants are so much more economical and can be located in an area where it is most needed and moved around as and when required

In which case, in view of the imminent water shortage, why doesn't the Cyprus Govt order some?
They will have plenty of gas to power them.
Pity they couldn't do a deal with the occupied territory's Administration to share some of their water brought over from Turkey by undersea pipeline; they have so much coming in down that pipe they are running about 20% off into the sea!
Amos.

Do you have a link for that information please
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It was reported in the north Cyprus news:
www.lgcnews.com
You can search there, in the search box type in: "water from turkey".
They have pictures of it running out into the sea - a few weeks or so ago.
Amos.
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Many thanks

[Kili01]

I remember mentioning on the previous forum that the Govt in the north had already offered water from the new Turkish pipeline to the south of the island, even before the pipeline was finished. In their perceived wisdom they turned this offer down. Most of the Govt ministers don’t live in Paphos area and the rest of the south is served by desalination plants! So its hard luck for Paphos if the reservoirs run out. What will happen if the hotels are full of tourists who want showers? Or to us residents who have been enduring water cuts?
Lets just pray that we have some sustained heavy rain. Though present weather forecasts make that seem doubtfull.

Dee

[exodus]

No need to pray for rain, the reservoirs won't run out. Feb and March often bring abundant rain; rain can be plentiful in April too. Though it is low by historic standards, already the Asprokremnos is two thirds the capacity it was this time last year. It is said the existing desalination plants can cover Cyprus's needs and when the Paphos plant comes online next year, the whole of the Cyprus will be covered.

So why was the Govt warning about a water shortage this summer and urging people to not waste water etc?
Amos.

[Varky]

A new desalination plant is to be built next year & this will guarantee Paphos drinking water supplies for the foreseeable future!
Shane

Foreseeable future? That phrase has different definitions in different places.

[Dominic]

Does it really?

[exodus]

Reply to Happy in Cyprus.
Well I suppose it depends if you call the glass half full, or half empty.
I hope you are right and there is no serious shortage of water.
Amos.

[trevnhil]

Well perhaps if the hotels paid their water bills there may be funds available for portable desalination plants.

I remember a few years back it was stated that some of them owed vast amounts in unpaid water bills.
But of course because of the visitors they have, they were not cut off.

[Kili01]

I think that Lloyd’s post is intended to balance mine! Being actively involved with swimming pools he is always the optimist! I hope that he is right! But the fact remains that at present the Asprokremnos is only 25% full, last year at this time it was abt 40%. If we have a reasonable amount of rain in March/ April that would help.
If every one economises in their use of water we might make it.
Incidentally, at the time we were told that the cost of maintaining and running temporary desalinators was very high in relation to the amount of water they produce.Also the poster who wants to drink desalinated water, wonder if he has tried it? I did in Dubai, though we were told to drink bottled water. I tried a taste of it, it was awful.
Dee

[exodus]

Ha Dee I'm not sure why working with swimming pools should make me an optimist, I am that anyway The water situation doesn't affect our business one way or the other. And while the water situation is serious, it is not beyond redemption if we have some rain over the next few months. But with de-salination as a (albeit costly) back-up, Cyprus will not go dry, as in Cape Town.

Only costly because of the cost of fuel. As we have loads of offshore gas now, that is surely (??) no longer an issue.
I speak with my economist's hat on!
Amos.

[PaphosAL]

How large an array of PV panels would be needed to power a tyical mobile desalination plant?

And what sort of initial capital cost would be involved for this self-powered solution, as compared to using electric, oil, or gas power?

AL

[exodus]

How large an array of PV panels would be needed to power a tyical mobile desalination plant?

And what sort of initial capital cost would be involved for this self-powered solution, as compared to using electric, oil, or gas power?

AL

About 5000 solar panels. You do the sums. It ain't economic.
Amos.

[Dominic]

The mobile plant in Geroskipou ran off the mains.