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Non Traditional Cremation

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Perhaps this could be used in Cyprus as the normal traditional cremation seems not to be happening in Cyprus, is this more acceptable?
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A council has plans to allow people to dispose of loved ones' bodies through water cremation, a new and environmentally friendly way to get rid of human remains.
The process involves putting a body is put into a steel vat with an alkaline solution that accelerates the natural breakdown of the body, turning all but the bones into liquid that gets poured down the drain.
Sandwell metropolitan borough council, near Birmingham, hopes to become the first in the UK to use the cremation technique, which is already used in parts of Canada and the United States.

The council has given permission to Rowley Regis crematorium to fit a £300,000 Resomator, or water cremation device into their facility.
But water company Severn Trent has refused to give the council a 'trade effluent permit', arguing that the permit only covers waste disposal.
Rowley Regis needs permission from Severn Trent before it can dispose of waste down the drain, The Sunday Times reported.

Sandwell council, Resomation and Water UK are working to 'explore all the options' to allow the device into Rowley Regis.
Alkaline hydrolysis was originally created to dispose of animal carcasses, but it is now being used in parts of North America as a more environmentally friendly way of disposing of loved ones' bodies.
Alkaline hydrolysis uses a metal hydroxide, 572F (300C) heat and huge amounts of pressure to destroy bodies in big stainless-steel cylinders that look similar to pressure cookers.

The process involves submerging the body in a solution of water and potassium hydroxide, which is then pressurised and heated for two-and-a-half to three hours.
This leaves a green-brown tinted liquid containing amino acids, peptides, sugars and salts and soft, porous white bone remains which are easily crushed into ash and given to the family in an urn.
The liquid waste, meanwhile, is flushed down the drain. Per body, there is about 330 gallons (1,500 litres) of liquid waste.
It also eliminates concerns about crematorium emissions, including carbon dioxide, which can be released into the air as part of the process.
The process is considered to be a new way to 'green-ify' death, as concern grows over the carbon footprint that is left by burials and standard cremations.

Resomation's founder, Sandy Sullivan, 61, said 'dozens' of crematoriums across the UK are interested in the water cremation devices, which are built in West Yorkshire.
He said he hopes Rowley Regis will have the cremation device in operation by springtime.
'There is no technical reason why the liquid can't go down the drain,' he told The Sunday Times. 'It is a very treatable organic liquid. It is sterile and there is no DNA in it.
'We are copying nature. The body dissolves by soil bacteria and it is a very long process. All we are doing is taking the exact same chemistry and applying heat, which speeds it up. This is a third option, other than cremation and burial.'
While it would be a first in the UK if Rowley Regis is able to start using the process, the Crematory Association of North America (Dean is a board member) added alkaline hydrolysis in 2010 to its definition of cremation.
The cremation industry itself has already been undergoing rapid change in recent years; according to CANA statistics, the cremation rate in the United States jumped from 26.2 per cent in 2000 to 48.6 percent in 2015.
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Not any time soon ............... unless you plan for a rainy session when there is a river flowing to the sea!


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'The liquid waste, meanwhile, is flushed down the drain. Per body, there is about 330 gallons (1,500 litres) of liquid waste.'

Having been involved in effluent treatment in a former life, I hate to think of the costs of water treatment (plant and running) in most countries. As much of the contaminants in the effluent are organic ('amino acids, peptides, sugars and salts'), the biological oxygen demand (BOD5) will be very high and is limited in most countries to about 25 mg/l (0.025 g/l). Also the high pH of the effluent would require adding important quantities of acid to neutralise it.
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Don't fancy this method I suffer from chlostraphobia.

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I've still got my heart set on a catapult.
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Strapped to the underside of the orbiting ISS would suit me...

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You could use Dom's catapult, if his idea ever got off the ground ............... 2 birds with one stone so to speak! ;)


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Why pour us into the sea...........surely we'd make perfect liquid fertiliser?
Much more sensible and fitting, after all matter never dies, it's just transmuted.
I love the idea of rejoining the circle of life, even if I end up a carrot...........which of course will be eaten, perhaps by a donkey and then go on to fertilise another plant ...........and perhaps one day a tree.
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I don't fancy that idea, TLR. I might end up as a cockroach or slug in a future life...
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Hudswell wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:35 pm Nope....still holding out for a Viking funeral....
Ooh yes, good plan. Mind you, you wouldn't want to be downwind of that, a tad aromatic I should imagine. Very dramatic though!
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Dominic wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:38 pm I've still got my heart set on a catapult.
Laughing, as my imagination goes into overdrive :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That's exactly my point. It would be the funniest funeral ever.
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So Dominic: your heart is perched on a catapult (I know, I know, but it's how I read it). What about the rest of you? Perhaps you should use a trebuchet instead. You'd fit more body parts on that way, and could potentially fertilise the vineyard.
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My whole body would be in the catapult. My arms and legs (still attached, mind) would be draped over the side.

We are talking big catapults here.
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