Just one example of false reporting by the media

[Poppy]

This morning it was reported that Angela Merkel had insisted that the UK must stick to the Brexit timetable. Then they showed and translated the speech by Ms Merkel and she did not say that at all.In fact I thought she was very reasonable and actually said she was sure that we would stick to the timetable.

[Dominic]

It would help if you had a link to where the erroneous report was!

[Poppy]

Sorry Dom - no link it was just on Sky news this morning!

[Dominic]

Fair enough. But yes I agree. Also on the BBC, I was annoyed with their headline stating that that Conservatives were "robbed" of victory.

[Dominic]

And no I can't find a link to it now.

[2QuarterPints]

Sadly, as regulating the online world is seemingly impossible, living with fake news seems to be something we are going to have to put up with. However, having just spent a month in the States, we do not have it nearly as bad as they do over there, and I hope that we never do. One News Channel/Newspaper will say one thing, and another News Channel/Newspaper will then pick apart and refute what has been said, and the next day it all starts again. "Unnamed sources" are continually quoted, so just making stories up can be done at will. Even if the other side to the discussion then disproves what has been said, the damage has already been done.

[Jimgward]

It's getting to the point where you can't trust the media on anything....

Some are known to be outrageous, like the Mail, Sun, Fox News.... but many others are now implicated....

Some should be censored for their coverage of the election. The Mail has Cor Bin as a headline.... day before election....

May spent her electioneering slagging off the notion of Corbyn, Abbot and McDonald and Sturgeon.... pulling faces and going for cheap laughs.

Say what you like about Corbyn, he fought a fair and dignified election. May deserves what happened and what is about to happen, with how poor she was.

[Jimgward]

The problem is that "News" is now seen as entertainment, no one actually reports the news, they want to make it...hence the hysteria about Mrs May resigning....all the news channels should be ashamed of themselves..oh and Corbyn fought a fair and dignified election campaign based on a manifesto that he could never ever deliver on, he lied, he promised everything to everybody...and people fell for it...Mrs May fought a terrible campaign but based on honesty and principle...not eye catching, with a message that we are not out of the woods yet in regard to austarity, with a plan to deliver social care, the so called "dementia" tax, that actually left people with more than the present system...her communication team needs sacking, she however needs to lead the country through its most difficult time since WWII, and I still believe she can...Corbyn however would sell the country out and bankrupt it at the same time.

Honesty from May? What about the fact the national debt has doubled since the Tories took power? Yes, you can cut taxes, but only if you lump it on debt....

[Devil]

hence the hysteria about Mrs May resigning....oh and Corbyn fought a fair and dignified election campaign ...Mrs May fought a terrible campaign but based on honesty and principle...Corbyn however would sell the country out and bankrupt it at the same time.

Typical! It is Mrs May but not Mr Corbyn. If you wish to use courtesy titles, please be consistent.

[tonee]

And of course the Guardian and the Daily Mirror were magnificent in their coverage of the Election,I suppose the manufactured picture of Theresa May the day before the election was acceptable then?

[Devil]

.and I actually respect Mrs May, I have little for Corbyn...

Well, I've absolutely no respect for May but do for Mr Corbyn

[Dominic]

hence the hysteria about Mrs May resigning....oh and Corbyn fought a fair and dignified election campaign ...Mrs May fought a terrible campaign but based on honesty and principle...Corbyn however would sell the country out and bankrupt it at the same time.

Typical! It is Mrs May but not Mr Corbyn. If you wish to use courtesy titles, please be consistent.

Oh so sorry, as an avid Wimbledon fan I suppose I was applying the same curtesy as applied to male and female players...and I actually respect Mrs May, I have little for Corbyn...

What exactly do you respect about her?

[Jimgym]

hence the hysteria about Mrs May resigning....oh and Corbyn fought a fair and dignified election campaign ...Mrs May fought a terrible campaign but based on honesty and principle...Corbyn however would sell the country out and bankrupt it at the same time.

Typical! It is Mrs May but not Mr Corbyn. If you wish to use courtesy titles, please be consistent.

Oh shock horror!

[Jimgym]

Really, as a member and supporter of the Scottish National Party, welcome to MY world.

What falsehoods have the media reported about SNP?

[June]

Good post Hudswell. I totally agree!

[Poppy]

Good post Hudswell. I agree with you entirely!When you think about it Corbyn did not do that well considering all his promises. It was a good job that there were some people who did not believe him and it shows just how gullible so many of our young are if they are taken in by empty promises

[Varky]

I actually think she is an honest principled woman, but has led a pretty terrible campaign and listened to advice that obviously was flawed. But Instead of caving in, as Cameron did. She is determined to lead the government and the country through some harse negations in regard to Brexit, the country needs stability. Now we have a choice, we support her, parliament supports her, or they continue to play the political games that forced her to call a GE in the first place, and we give the EU technocrats the upper hand...if Corbyn actually was serious about leading the country do you really think he would have made so many promises he could never keep? She has guts, she knows she will go eventually but at least she has the balls to at least ensure that negotiations are kicked off from a position of strength rather than rolling over and showing our belly as some seem to wish. Now you and others may think otherwise, and that is the problem...you give our enemies...and do not believe that the EU technocrats are not our enemy, belief, belief that we are weak..Mrs May still believes in our strength, and I actually believe that this experience will make her stronger...unlike some she will learn.

There are non so blind that cannot see. The lady's days are numbered. She never learned that one U-turn was enough. It was her 'idea' of obtaining security by calling a general election in the first place. A bit like setting fire to a building and then wanting praise for calling the fire brigade. I must admit that her manifesto policies did not need to be costed, as all she was doing was to take money from the old, infirm, pupils, police (as Home Secretary) etc. etc. At least Jeremy Corbyn's manifesto was costed by an independent body. All he was doing in the main was to tax the rich and big business. I bet the majority of those that are now blowing their horns in support of Teresa May (Or Maybe not) do not live in UK or are of an age where they are independent of the state unlike those JAM's that have to rely on the state as a back up for education, health, security. Think of the majority of the population rather than sitting in your ivory towers.

[Poppy]

No ivory tower here! I now live in the Uk on limited means and still fully support Mrs May. The elderly are not doing so badly,we have the triple lock until 2020 and then the double lock. I will probably lose the WFA as I have some savings but I lost it when I lived in Cyprus and to be honest most of the houses here are so well insulated now that our fuel bills are manageable.Re the so called dementia tax I cannot understand why people cannot see that it is a vast improvement on the present system. In all my working years I have always worked hard for reasonably low wages,have never got in financial difficulties and only spent what I could afford. I have never been coddled or pampered and do not expect it now. I must also say that it is proven fact that if you reduce taxes at the higher end and corporation tax the end result is an increase in tax receipts and a more lively economy. I worked for the DWP for many years and can tell numerous tales of benefit abuse and of families who had never worked and continued down the generations to fraudently abuse the system. JC's policies are badly flawed.

[Rita Sherry]

Well done Hudswell. The sad thing is, in my view, there is very little respect shown these days for anyone. Disagree with a view put forward and it seems almost compulsory to denegrate the discussion into a slanging match. Politicians are to a degree used to it - it goes with the territory- but it becomes very irritable to those of us watching or listening. I have worked all my working life alongside politicians of every hue and whilst I am a conservative with both a capital and small "c" I can honestly say I have always had respect for those of an opposite view many of whom have worked hard and sincerely for the publics' benefit. I dislike the socialist philosophy, its smothering in my view, but that did not stop me respecting Harold Wilson,Jim Callaghan, Barbara Castle, Alan Johnson et al not forgetting Dennis Skinner.

Mr Corbyn has not changed one iota in all the 40 years he has been in Parliament still as inflexible as ever. The difference between Mr Corbyn and Mrs May is that he is a campaigner and pretty good at it (he has had plenty of practice) but he has some pretty strange bedfellows as friends whilst Mrs May is a beaver who gets on with her work (I believe she needs to polish up her campaigning skills). One thing is certain when negotiations start if things dont go the way Jeremy wishes there will be rallies and he will be at the head of them. One thing is however certain he has always been anti EU and a look at Hansard (Parliaments authentic record of proceedings) will show his voting record on the issue and many others.

Poppy

dont fret too much about youth - we have all been through the same rebel streak but most of us grow out of it. I do wish though someone would blow the myth that they will not be able to study, travel or work abroad - we managed to before we joined the club (three of my friends went off to study in France and Italy in the mid fifties ) and two of them stayed to work. I myself certainly travelled to Europe as did many British people before we joined the EU without problem and that included visiting communist countries like Hungary and what is now Serbia etc. Just needed a valid passport as we still do.

Rita

[Rita Sherry]

I actually think she is an honest principled woman, but has led a pretty terrible campaign and listened to advice that obviously was flawed. But Instead of caving in, as Cameron did. She is determined to lead the government and the country through some harse negations in regard to Brexit, the country needs stability. Now we have a choice, we support her, parliament supports her, or they continue to play the political games that forced her to call a GE in the first place, and we give the EU technocrats the upper hand...if Corbyn actually was serious about leading the country do you really think he would have made so many promises he could never keep? She has guts, she knows she will go eventually but at least she has the balls to at least ensure that negotiations are kicked off from a position of strength rather than rolling over and showing our belly as some seem to wish. Now you and others may think otherwise, and that is the problem...you give our enemies...and do not believe that the EU technocrats are not our enemy, belief, belief that we are weak..Mrs May still believes in our strength, and I actually believe that this experience will make her stronger...unlike some she will learn.

There are non so blind that cannot see. The lady's days are numbered. She never learned that one U-turn was enough. It was her 'idea' of obtaining security by calling a general election in the first place. A bit like setting fire to a building and then wanting praise for calling the fire brigade. I must admit that her manifesto policies did not need to be costed, as all she was doing was to take money from the old, infirm, pupils, police (as Home Secretary) etc. etc. At least Jeremy Corbyn's manifesto was costed by an independent body. All he was doing in the main was to tax the rich and big business. I bet the majority of those that are now blowing their horns in support of Teresa May (Or Maybe not) do not live in UK or are of an age where they are independent of the state unlike those JAM's that have to rely on the state as a back up for education, health, security. Think of the majority of the population rather than sitting in your ivory towers.

Mr Corbyn's manifesto costings were deemed by a further independent body not to add up. Could you please define "rich". Would one of Mr Corbyn's TV audience at the Leader's debate who had a small business employing 4 people and under Mr Corbyn would have an increase in his corporation tax bill to 26% be one of the rich? Mr Corbyn's response was he thought the gentleman would wish to live in a fairer society and in any event the increase would be at the same level as it was in 2010 (of course you will know that it is not the same as it is today). The gentleman did point out that such an increase would mean he had to reduce his workforce as he was already working to his financial limit.

What does the phrase "of an age where they are independent of the State......." mean? If you are referring to people who send their children to private schools, have private medical insurance etc does it not occur to you that those people not only pay these private bills but also do not utilise the services of state schools, or NHS but continue to pay taxes so that others can - in other words they are paying twice. Has it never occurred to you that those people whom you so obviously despise do very often assist those less fortunate than themselves. Get the chip of your shoulder and look around you - there are a lot of decent people in this world rich and poor alike (whatever rich may mean) - politics of envy.

Turning to the comment regarding the police - Mr Corbyn stated he was going to put 10,000 more police on the streets of the UK (Mrs Abbott had problems giving the actual cost of this) - this would in reality mean 1 extra policeman in each UK town. How significant a difference would that make in the event of a terrorist attack? You are doubtless aware that in both of the dreadful incidents in Manchester and London the police were on the scene within minutes as were the emergency services who dealt with the situation. There was also a fantastic response from the general public without thought of their own safety at both incidents. What did Mr Corbyn do - make political capital of it - so whats new. Do you realise that 10 people have been stabbed in London alone since January one more on Thursday evening (election night) but who insisted on "stop and search be discontinued".

Rita