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Erdogan....Turkey

Post by Termites Dream » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:49 am

It appears Mr Erdogan wants even more of the Med.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... iterranean

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Post by Mrblobby » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:12 am

Some more news of an event that happened a couple of weeks ago.

https://www.jns.org/turkish-navy-ships- ... KtULMMrTgA

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Post by WHL » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Like any other power hungry Dictator, it will all end in tears for the Great Sultan,... rule one, do not upset the Israelis, rule two dont issue cheques your Arse cant honour.

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Post by WHL » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:46 pm

Give the Sultan enough rope, and Hopefully?
https://www.euronews.com/2019/12/16/wha ... PsJt-KkFew

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Post by Termites Dream » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:28 am

Various reports are that Turkey is operating in Libya with Special Forces and intends to build a base as part of their cooperation agreement. This has resulted in Egypt's President Sisi stating that this would not be tolerated as it threatens Egypt's National Security. Turkey appears intent on being friendless in the region. We will have to see if any of this plays out.

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Post by WHL » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:24 am

Termites Dream wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:28 am
Various reports are that Turkey is operating in Libya with Special Forces and intends to build a base as part of their cooperation agreement. This has resulted in Egypt's President Sisi stating that this would not be tolerated as it threatens Egypt's National Security. Turkey appears intent on being friendless in the region. We will have to see if any of this plays out.
There is a good article in the Independent, re Turkey sending troops to Turkey, like most other dictators, Edogan will end up in the dustbin of History, its only a matter of time before Turkeys friends in Tripoli, are beaten, Edogan is taking Turkey into areas, were they should not get involved, but this Despot sees himself reviving the Ottoman empire,.....

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Post by WHL » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:50 pm

Interesting developments, I still feel it will all end in tears for the Despot

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Is-Tu ... ria-612316

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Post by jeba » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:51 pm

Why is he getting invooved in Libya in the first place? What's there to be won for him?
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Post by Varky » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 pm

jeba wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:51 pm
Why is he getting invooved in Libya in the first place? What's there to for him to be won?
I suspect he is playing the big 'I am man' for home consumption as he seems to be losing support there.

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Post by Termites Dream » Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:04 am

Varky wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 pm
jeba wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:51 pm
Why is he getting invooved in Libya in the first place? What's there to for him to be won?
I suspect he is playing the big 'I am man' for home consumption as he seems to be losing support there.
I believe in part you are right, however Turkey has got into several diplomatic adventures and failed in all. It has made several threats to the US to remove US bases, which if carried out would be the most significant in my view. It has also made indirect threats via the sea it seeks to control against Israel, Greece and Cyprus.

On the 2nd of Jan the agreement to construct the gas pipeline from Israel to Greece is due to be signed. This passes straight through the area claimed by Turkey and Libya. Something will have to give!!

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Post by WHL » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:55 am

jeba wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:51 pm
Why is he getting invooved in Libya in the first place? What's there to be won for him?
Like many Dictators before him, he is power mad, he dreams of the Ottoman Empire raising from the ashes, with him as Sultan, He built himself a one thousand room Palace, changed the laws to give himself more powers, contrived a fake Coup d'état, so to give himself an excuse to imprison anyone who dares question him, he has sent troops to the horn of Africa, Middle East etc, he is playing with fire, and in my opinion will get burnt.

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Post by Jimgward » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:26 pm

I wonder why the USA has done nothing about Turkey contravening the NATO agreement - and allowing Erdogan to basically flout international law...

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Post by WHL » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:00 pm

Jimgward wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:26 pm
I wonder why the USA has done nothing about Turkey contravening the NATO agreement - and allowing Erdogan to basically flout international law...
Since when has Trump been a believer in honouring laws.

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Post by Termites Dream » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:25 am

Jimgward wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:26 pm
I wonder why the USA has done nothing about Turkey contravening the NATO agreement - and allowing Erdogan to basically flout international law...
In my view the bases in Turkey which support US troops in the Middle East are the reason for Trump's patience and the hope that they can turn Erdogan back from "The dark side"

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Post by WHL » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:48 am

Give a dictator enough rope, and they will hang themselves

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-to-libya

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Post by Termites Dream » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:07 pm

Turkey has deployed troops to Libya and more on the way. according to CNN

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Post by Diocletian » Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:37 pm

Erdogan is trying to distract attention away from his falling popularity at home by indulging in grandiose foreign policy moves. the new Mayor of Istanbul is the real threat to Erdogan.
What astonishes me is the complete lack of a robust challenge from both the EU and the UK, particularly as a Guarantor power for Cyprus. Having said that, the UK response to 1974 was well below what I would have expected.

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Post by Jimgward » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Interesting article about the US backing the East Med pipeline for gas, in competition with Russia and Turkey

https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/gree ... 08007.html

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Post by WHL » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:37 am

Israel has taken the threat from Turkey, up a notch,
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-first- ... ssessment/

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