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Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:52 pm
by Devil
Methane and natural gas are the same things so the answer is that methane has a larger molecule and is therefore not as "searching" as pure hydrogen.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:35 am
by Dominic
glowred wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:27 pm The biggest issue I see in this discussion is the derogatory use of the label Weatherman. Usually when a person tries to belittle an individual it is because they know that their own argument doesn't stand up

Neil
This is very true. Any casual reader of this thread will not conclude that Trans Am is the knowledgeable one, based purely on how they are communicating.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:54 am
by Devil
Dominic wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:35 am This is very true. Any casual reader of this thread will not conclude that Trans Am is the knowledgeable one, based purely on how they are communicating.
Thank you for that intervention, Dominic. I think this subsection of the thread may now be better closed – what say you?

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:02 am
by WHL
71 Trans Am wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:20 pm As with the Hydrogen argument the Weatherman is way off track on Nuclear Fusion

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... sion-power
I think the Weatherman has more scientific knowledge, then most people on this island, so I would stop right there if I was you.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:15 am
by Maggie B
Jeepers. . . . What an explosive discussion. Very interesting though.

Maggie B

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm
by Aargent
Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.

https://salcos.salzgitter-ag.com/en/ind ... jAQAvD_BwE

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:42 pm
by jagwheels
Maggie we all relying on your countrymen to resolve this problem because no one else seems capable. That is why cop26 was held in your country ;)

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:13 pm
by jagwheels
jagwheels wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:42 pm Maggie we are all relying on your countrymen to resolve this problem because no one else seems capable. Maybe why cop26 was held in Scotland ;)

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:12 am
by Jim B
Aargent wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.

https://salcos.salzgitter-ag.com/en/ind ... jAQAvD_BwE
In 1975 we installed a system in the Royal Insurance Building in Liverpool designed by Honeywell which used a similar principle. Using heat from people and office equipment to provide a comfortable working environment. We installed the same system at the Triad in Bristol and Rolls Royce Research at Filton.
Nothing new, just modernisation of existing systems.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:16 pm
by Aargent
Jim B wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:12 am
Aargent wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.

https://salcos.salzgitter-ag.com/en/ind ... jAQAvD_BwE
In 1975 we installed a system in the Royal Insurance Building in Liverpool designed by Honeywell which used a similar principle. Using heat from people and office equipment to provide a comfortable working environment. We installed the same system at the Triad in Bristol and Rolls Royce Research at Filton.
Nothing new, just modernisation of existing systems.

You built a Steel producing plant inside an Insurance Company ?

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:22 pm
by Devil
Aargent wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.
I agree that an open mind is required but there is so little detail on their website that it needs to be wide, wide, open. My first question would be the low carbon production of steel would produce what characteristics (crystal shape and size, tensile strength and elongation et cetera)? However, I like the idea, provided that the generation of the additional energy for electrolysis is also low carbon.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:51 pm
by Aargent
Devil wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:22 pm
Aargent wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.
I agree that an open mind is required but there is so little detail on their website that it needs to be wide, wide, open. My first question would be the low carbon production of steel would produce what characteristics (crystal shape and size, tensile strength and elongation et cetera)? However, I like the idea, provided that the generation of the additional energy for electrolysis is also low carbon.
It states on their Website "The aim of the “Salzgitter Hydrogen” sector-interconnection project is to generate hydrogen in Salzgitter through electrolysis and electricity from wind power. "

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:16 pm
by Devil
Okay, and if the wind drops such as it's done here over the last seven weeks, what then?

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:30 pm
by Aargent
Luckily the wind speed profile in Germany is totally different and twice the average of Cyprus. Should cover the demand

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:47 pm
by Jim B
Aargent wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:16 pm
Jim B wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:12 am
Aargent wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:27 pm Whilst I have been going on about Hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles I have just come across another very important way in which Hydrogen could help save the Planet.
I think on this subject it is as well to have a broad outlook and an open mind.

https://salcos.salzgitter-ag.com/en/ind ... jAQAvD_BwE
In 1975 we installed a system in the Royal Insurance Building in Liverpool designed by Honeywell which used a similar principle. Using heat from people and office equipment to provide a comfortable working environment. We installed the same system at the Triad in Bristol and Rolls Royce Research at Filton.
Nothing new, just modernisation of existing systems.

You built a Steel producing plant inside an Insurance Company ?
Several of the floors of the Roal Insurance Building just consisted of Plant Rooms which operated on a similar principle as described in the Salzgitter article.

Re: Is Hydrogen the Answer ?

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:09 am
by Aargent
I think this will be my last word on the subject but it just shows the ongoing commitment of the Government to produce Hydrogen at a reasonable cost.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gl ... t-59365823