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Varky

Corbyn DOES support terrorists, and he has a long history of that support.

Jackie

Firefly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:57 pm Varky

Corbyn DOES support terrorists, and he has a long history of that support.

Jackie

That is your interpretation of the efforts he has made – as a pacifist – to hold dialogues with extremists in an effort to promote peace. Because he talks with people who may promote violence, in no way does he support it himself, in fact the contrary. Unfortunately, the media misinterpret his dialogues and people like yourself believe everything you read, especially when it denigrates somebody who is not on your like list.

Devil

When I hear it from his own lips that he calls terrorists his FRIENDS, which I have, I have no doubt that that 'friendship' means support. That's my view, and I do not intend to change it.

Jackie

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:03 pm

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:34 am

Hudswell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:22 pm So, I am assuming you support his "support" of the PIRA in Northern Ireland..or his support of the failed socilist Government In Venezuela. No he not a sheep, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing...a dangerous..and a lying individual.and has been caught out and will go..thankfully for the country.

You do really like to jump to assumptions don't you? Putting your words into other's mouths is your strength. The sheep I was referring to was YOU.

What assumptions? You started "Sheepgate". Would you really want Corbyn anywhere a seat of power? He is blatantly unfit for leadership, he is bringing the Labour Party into disrepute...along with a few of his deluded cronies, He has shown clear support for terrorist elements both in the UK and abroad..is he anti Semitic ? I don't really know, but I suspect elements of the Labour Party are.. he is anti Zionist for certain ...and has gone out of his way to cosy up to some pretty despicable characters in his support of the "State of Palestine" of the PLO and Hamas....and other seedy countries around the world. Labour are, and will remain unelectable whilst Corbyn is in charge, he is a dangerous idealistic whose views are simply not compatable with those of the UK.

Really ....what assumptions? Read your own posting *So I am assuming"....did you write that or not. You deny your own words!

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:09 pm Oh I do apologise....no he hasn't got form on sharing platforms or making speeches In support of terrorists and terrorist organisations has he....not so much the normal Palestinian or Irishman....and Devil a pacifist? Misunderstood ? I think the evidence speaks for itself... It's not just the media that misinterpreted his views....you would vote for him?

In the first place, I never said that I would vote for him, even if I could.
Secondly, I don't know whether you implied that devil was misunderstood as you are unable to write clear English. And I have never made any bones about being a pacifist.
Thirdly, I am aware that he met Palestinians and Irishmen in attempts to reduce violence, which is part of his credo of pacifism. I am equally aware that he has at times been very clumsy but that does not equate to being "in support of terrorists and terrorist organisations". In fact very much the contrary as he attempted to persuade them to stop terrorism and violence in general. In reality, his major fault has been naïveté, thinking that he alone could make a difference.

Returning to the first point, above, I am very pleased that I have no right to vote because, for the life of me, I cannot think of any British politician in today's Parliament for whom I could be persuaded to vote.

A niave Prime Minister, that would be a first, it would be hilarious if it wasn't possible

Jackie

Firefly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:03 pm A niave Prime Minister, that would be a first, it would be hilarious if it wasn't possible

Jackie

We've already had too many naîve PMs, too many to catalogue.

Maybe you could research a new book Devil?


Shane

A wee bit of history for all those saying that Corbyn supports Terrorists....

In the 80’s, Thatcher and most of the Tory party, condemned Nelson Mandela as a terrorist. At the same time, one of her friends was Pinochet, a despot right-wing, fascist.

Thatcher and her husband also supported apartheid in all its forms.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71356.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... frica.html

This was a conservative party poster from the time;



Worth watching Theresa May in South Africa.... embarassing....

https://youtu.be/4y_mo2LE6HE

Devil

Please give me an idea of P.M.s you consider to have been naïve.

Jackie

Firefly wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:57 pm Devil

Please give me an idea of P.M.s you consider to have been naïve.

Jackie

In my lifetime:
Ramsay MacDonald
Stanley Baldwin (abdication crisis)
Neville Chamberlain (appeasement)
Sir Anthony Eden (M.E.)
Sir Alec Douglas-Home (Scottish independence)
Harold Wilson (N. Ireland)
James Callaghan (winter of discontent)
John Major (wimp)
Tony Blair (US lapdog)
David Cameron (Brexit)
Theresa May (brainless)
(non-exhaustive list!)

Devil

You list past P.M.s and their failings, and I agree with you in that, however, I do not consider that any of them were naïve. Too full of their own importance to see what is happening under their noses yes, but naïve, no.

Very interesting to note that Mrs Thatcher isn't on your list.

Jackie

I'm not going to go through the list explaining the naivety of each one; I have better things to do! I'll just give two examples:
Chamberlain's "peace in our time"
Blair's puppyhood

No, I don't think Thatcher was naive; she was detestable, horribly mistaken, but not naive!

Devil wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:00 pm I'm not going to go through the list explaining the naivety of each one; I have better things to do! I'll just give two examples:
Chamberlain's "peace in our time"
Blair's puppyhood
No, I don't think Thatcher was naive; she was detestable, horribly mistaken, but not naive!

I don't think Blair was naive, I think he was manipulative, to secure his post-premiership future.

I agree with you about Thatcher, although I don't think she considered she made any mistakes.

Oh dear, "better things to do" Devil, pity you just don't get on a do them then, instead of wasting time chatting on here.

As it happens, I admired Mrs thatcher, and always will.

Jackie

Firefly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:34 pm As it happens, I admired Mrs thatcher, and always will.

Jackie

That says everything!

Probably does Devil, she was one gutsy lady, not many men admire women who are stronger than themselves.

Jackie

Not gutsy, Thatcher was evil and vindictive.

Jim

Jim B

Evil, that's a very strong word, please explain in what way she was evil.

Jackie

Jackie
Try Liverpool and "Managed Decline".

Jim