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Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:08 pm
by Dominic
Theresa May is to chair a special cabinet meeting on Wednesday to discuss a draft Brexit withdrawal agreement.

A cabinet source has told BBC the text has been agreed at a technical level by officials from both sides after intensive talks this week.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46188790

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:17 pm
by Chaddy
Dominic,my family like many others take the BBC news not to seriously any more..They don't tell us fake news but don't tell the WHOLE story,just a biased left wing view of it.But I guess you already new this......Back to my evening Carlsberg...

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:29 pm
by Mark
Great news Dominic, hope she can pull a rabbit out of the hat.

Unfortunately Merkel's Speach today in favour of a European army will serve to bolster the hard brexiteers,.....bad timing.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:46 pm
by ApusApus
Can't particularly see where this BBC report is biased or left wing, it's merely stating what has just happened! MSN news has published something similar and I guess several other news sites have done the same.


Shane

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:34 pm
by Mrblobby
A little hint of news like this soon has affect on the value of the pound . Shame it’s not more .

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:48 pm
by smudger
Fingers tightly crossed for a good deal!!

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:01 pm
by Mark
Ditto!

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:02 pm
by Mark
Or another referendum which I am sure will result in a reversal of the first.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:08 pm
by smudger
Aaahhh!! Don't agree there Mark!

The referendum was the referendum, end of. Why should it be rerun, just because some dissenters didn't agree with it?

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:26 pm
by Mark
No one really knew what they were voting for, even now many still don't know fully, but are a bit better informed.

If the current agreement fails, it's either a general election, which may well lead to a labour government, or a re-run.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:56 pm
by Jimgward
Dominic,my family like many others take the BBC news not TOO seriously any more..They don't tell us fake news but don't tell the WHOLE story,just a biased RIGHT wing view of it.But I guess you already KNEW this......Back to my evening TEA ...

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:21 pm
by JimX
You know what they say about the light at the end of the tunnel, it is a train coming!

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:29 pm
by Mark
Cabinet has just approved the draft withdrawal agreement.

May must have played a blinder to get this approval.........now the hard work begins to try to reunite a divided party, and country.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:44 pm
by Robert
Mark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:29 pm Cabinet has just approved the draft withdrawal agreement.

May must have played a blinder to get this approval.........now the hard work begins to try to reunite a divided party, and country.
Will we soon see some cabinet resignations from those that didn't approve it.

I wonder what the parliament meaningful vote will be as if the talking heads in recent days stay entrenched she doesn't seem to have enough support to get this through. Labour will say no as they want an election, ERG will say no as it's not a hard Brexit and the DUP will say no as "it's a poor deal, a bad deal, and a deal that the prime minister said she would not accept." That's a lot of labour rebels that will be needed... Does she call their bluff with two votes - should we accept the withdrawal agreement or no deal followed by should we accept the withdrawal agreement or remain. That would flush out those who have been throwing rocks throughout the process without offering an alternative.

Full disclosure: I voted remain.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:52 pm
by Mark
I now feel she will get what perhaps she has wanted all along, a people's vote on what's on the table, or a vote on whether we remain in the EU.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:53 pm
by Robert
Just saw the speech May made outside Number 10. She said something like "...the choice before us is clear..." the withdrawal agreement, leave with no deal or "...no Brexit at all..." It looks like it's about to get interesting.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:54 pm
by Mark
Robert I also voted remain, despite the many flaws in the EU.

We must remain to have a voice and try to avoid a federal Europe.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:54 pm
by Robert
Sorry Mark, posting while you posted. It's starting to look like somebody is going to get a vote.

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:22 pm
by ApusApus
Mark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:54 pm Robert I also voted remain, despite the many flaws in the EU.

We must remain to have a voice and try to avoid a federal Europe.
Robert, I agreed with that point of view which is why I voted to remain. However, it has now become patently clear that the EU wants a total federal Europe where individual countries have no say in how they are governed and we as individuals will not be able to affect the choice of how we are governed and have no option but to accept EU dictates!

If HiC, jimgward, jim b, etc. are happy with that then good luck for our children because it will be those that experience our decisions, not us? :cry:


Shane

Re: Light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:34 am
by jeba
Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:39 am And if May is ousted, what then? Doesn't bear thinking about.
Why? Maybe then you could have another referendum.