Paphos Life

That's my personal opinion, based on recent events and the two votes last evening.

There are influential people who won't accept otherwise and are running the show

Luckily the people in charge are not interested in your personal opinion!


Shane

17 million voted to leave the EU. They won the referendum . Dread to think what will happen if that does not happen next March.

jandk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:24 am 17 million voted to leave the EU. They won the referendum . Dread to think what will happen if that does not happen next March.

Interesting sentiment. Given the average age of the people who voted remain compared to the people who voted leave, I wonder who would win?

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:16 am

jandk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:24 am 17 million voted to leave the EU. They won the referendum . Dread to think what will happen if that does not happen next March.

Interesting sentiment. Given the average age of the people who voted remain compared to the people who voted leave, I wonder who would win?

Not sure that I understand this logic , surely democracy prevails.

Termites Dream wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:26 am It has taken up enough of our Governments time and energy.

Not to mention an estimated billion pounds + up to now, according to the Bank of England which includes exchange losses.

Add in loss of over 2% or GDP attributed to Brexit

Every time this appears in the 'new posts' list I feel that the heading is misleading.
It reads that it has already been decided that the UK WILL exit the EU with no deal.
That decision has not as far as I know been made..

jandk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:09 am

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:16 am

jandk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:24 am 17 million voted to leave the EU. They won the referendum . Dread to think what will happen if that does not happen next March.

Interesting sentiment. Given the average age of the people who voted remain compared to the people who voted leave, I wonder who would win?

Not sure that I understand this logic , surely democracy prevails.

So why do you "dread to think what will happen"? What did you mean by that?

Trevor, you're not alone, me too.

trevnhil wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:33 pm Every time this appears in the 'new posts' list I feel that the heading is misleading.
It reads that it has already been decided that the UK WILL exit the EU with no deal.
That decision has not as far as I know been made..

I have added "Viewpoint" to make it clearer.

I don't normally edit things, other than repair broken quotes. However, I don't think Jimgward will mind and it is a valid point.

Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:32 pm You now believe that the EU should now bend over backwards to alleviate the almighty shambles caused by Brexit and assist the incompetents who voted for it?

No, they should just apply the same principles to the UK as they do to other countries that want to negotiate a trade deal, like Canada & Japan for example!


Shane

Word from Westminster is that Pro-leave MPs have conceded that hundreds of thousands of jobs will go and austerity will stretch for decades, but that its a Price worth paying for ‘sovereignty’

Lloyd

I am quite frankly totally sick of all the doom and gloom, which at present is pure conjecture. More subdued ? Not likely, personally I just fail to see the point of discussing a subject which we cannot, and never will agree on.

Jackie

From today's Telegraph. Brussels has warned EU countries to get ready for a no-deal Brexit as Dominic Raab arrives for his first round of talks.

The European Commission is reportedly instructing the other member states to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.

It has issued a strong-worded paper which warns that failure to reach a deal would have a considerable impact on European business and citizens. The Commission is leading Brexit negotiations on the EU-27’s behalf.

So yes, as one poster said, choose your enemies with care!

While some may be sick of the doom and gloom surrounding this issue, I have to say that personally, nothing this significant has happened in my lifetime, that potentially affects me, my children and grandchildren. At this stage, we don't know what exact affects this will have, but we would be ostriches if we assumed all was going to be as good or better than before (at least for a very considerable period of time)

Our children have only ever experienced freedom of movement and cooperative effects of the EU. They don't remember queuing at Dover to have you boot searched for the extra bottles of wine.... The "Nationals" and "Others" queues at passport controls....

Jim

My children do remember having our car searched at Dover, even though we had nothing illegal, and in spite of being in the EU. So what, if more vehicles were searched, we might have less problems rather than more.

Are we all going to be like lemmings rather than ostriches over leaving the EU ?

Jackie

Jimgym wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:39 pm From today's Telegraph. Brussels has warned EU countries to get ready for a no-deal Brexit as Dominic Raab arrives for his first round of talks.

The European Commission is reportedly instructing the other member states to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.

It has issued a strong-worded paper which warns that failure to reach a deal would have a considerable impact on European business and citizens. The Commission is leading Brexit negotiations on the EU-27’s behalf.

So yes, as one poster said, choose your enemies with care!

Timing is all.
Lets hope Raab does not allow this to intimidate him.

Jimgym wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:39 pm From today's Telegraph. Brussels has warned EU countries to get ready for a no-deal Brexit as Dominic Raab arrives for his first round of talks.

The European Commission is reportedly instructing the other member states to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.

It has issued a strong-worded paper which warns that failure to reach a deal would have a considerable impact on European business and citizens. The Commission is leading Brexit negotiations on the EU-27’s behalf.

So yes, as one poster said, choose your enemies with care!

Quite frankly, is this not to be expected! Do we not think that the EU has run countless scenarios on a no-deal Brexit, a yes-deal Brexit or countless other possibilities in between? And do we think that the UK has not being doing the same?

Nobody knows what the day after tomorrow will be until tomorrow happens & that's a fact! We might be swimming in euphoria or drowning in the mire, we just don't know & the markets will decide at the end of the day!


Shane

The Irish border won't be decided by the markets. I am actually very curious to see how that will play out.

Personally I think I would prefer a hard Brexit to May's plan, but it's rather like preferring to having a tooth extracted to a six monthly filling.