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Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:02 pm
by jagwheels
Just an observation but I am impressed with members correct use of language on PL. When I receive an email from my daughter I sometimes have to resort to google for interpretation
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:14 pm
by josef k
I think there should be a comma after observation.
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by Robert
I think there should be 2 a's in grammar. Sorry...
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by Devil
Anyway, it's grammar, not grammer!

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:21 pm
by Rita Sherry
josef k wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:14 pm
I think there should be a comma after observation.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Not before a "but" Josef - at least that was what I was taught i.e. but is a conjunction
Rita
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:53 pm
by LouiseCastricum
and..... isn't it Google in stead of google?
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:00 pm
by aphrodite
LouiseCastricum wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:53 pm
and..... isn't it Google in stead of google?
and (also a conjunction word) shouldn’t in stead be 'instead'

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:27 pm
by TLR
Goodness me, you lot don't take any prisoners, do you?
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:30 pm
by Robert
TLR wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:27 pm
Goodness me, you lot don't take any prisoners, do you?
I think that's grammatically correct.

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:54 pm
by Dominic
Best fred eva.

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:51 pm
by Lofos-5
Q: What should you say to comfort a grammar nerd?
A: “There, their, they’re.”
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:52 pm
by Lofos-5

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Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:08 am
by PaphosAL
And, I'd just like to mention this.
But, booger it, I forgot what I was going to say...
However, this thread has made very interesting reading!
AL

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:00 am
by Devil
But (starting my sentence!) Merriam-Webster cannot be an authority on the English language, because it is American. Partridge, who is the English authority, states for 'and':
In general, avoid beginning a sentence with and: its use is justified only when a very effective addition is desired or when an arresting accumulation is to be concluded.
By extension, this dictum is applicable to other conjunctions.
Devil dixit

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:47 pm
by Devil
Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:34 pm
Enter "is it OK to use and at the beginning of a sentence" into Google and you will find that almost without exception, every single site says that it is; with the general proviso that you should not go overboard in the use of a preposition in this way.
Just goes to show that Google is not faultless.
And is
never a preposition; it is a conjunction!
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:04 pm
by Dominic
It became acceptable to start a sentence with "And" some time ago. It is not a new thing. If you don't like it, I am afraid you will have to invent a time machine.
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:53 pm
by jagwheels
I should have posted a smiley after my post but it has encouraged some interesting responses
All languages evolve & change over time but if you could abolish some words or saying's which ones would you ban?
To get you started, here's some that would make my list:
Blue sky thinking
Capacity building
Framework agreements
Going forward
Place shaping
Stakeholders
Strategic partners/priorities
Transformational
Value-added
Worklessness
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:14 pm
by Cactuslil
Why is it necessary for young people to start to answer a question with”so”? I find that extremely irritating as well.
We should rename this section “old farts blog”

Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:21 pm
by Devil
Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:58 pm
You don't have to look far. Just perusing the Sunday Mail and Sunday Times over lunchtime I came across the examples below. In two of these instances, the word 'And' was used at the start of a paragraph.
The first two examples are acceptable but I'm adamant that you cannot start a new paragraph with
and. It is not only bad grammar, it is senseless. A new paragraph is meant as a break in thought;
And conjoins a plurality of thoughts. Of course, newspapers, like the ones quoted, are not the paragons of grammatical virtue. They lower themselves to populist levels.
Re: Grammer
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:03 pm
by Dominic
Indeed. Imagine if we still spoke and thought like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT6cB6vMWYU