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Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:02 pm
by jagwheels
Just an observation but I am impressed with members correct use of language on PL. When I receive an email from my daughter I sometimes have to resort to google for interpretation

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:14 pm
by josef k
I think there should be a comma after observation.



Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by Robert
I think there should be 2 a's in grammar. Sorry...

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by Devil
Anyway, it's grammar, not grammer! :)

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:21 pm
by Rita Sherry
josef k wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:14 pm I think there should be a comma after observation.



Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)
Not before a "but" Josef - at least that was what I was taught i.e. but is a conjunction :)

Rita

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:53 pm
by LouiseCastricum
and..... isn't it Google in stead of google?

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:00 pm
by aphrodite
LouiseCastricum wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:53 pm and..... isn't it Google in stead of google?
and (also a conjunction word) shouldn’t in stead be 'instead' :D

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:27 pm
by TLR
Goodness me, you lot don't take any prisoners, do you?

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:30 pm
by Robert
TLR wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:27 pm Goodness me, you lot don't take any prisoners, do you?
I think that's grammatically correct. :lol:

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:54 pm
by Dominic
Best fred eva. :D

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:51 pm
by Lofos-5
Q: What should you say to comfort a grammar nerd?





A: “There, their, they’re.”

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:52 pm
by Lofos-5
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Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:08 am
by PaphosAL
And, I'd just like to mention this.

But, booger it, I forgot what I was going to say...

However, this thread has made very interesting reading!

AL ;)

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:00 am
by Devil
Happy in Cyprus wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:14 am You may care to enlighten yourself by reading the Merriam-Webster Dictionary's view on this topic: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ences-with
But (starting my sentence!) Merriam-Webster cannot be an authority on the English language, because it is American. Partridge, who is the English authority, states for 'and':
In general, avoid beginning a sentence with and: its use is justified only when a very effective addition is desired or when an arresting accumulation is to be concluded.
By extension, this dictum is applicable to other conjunctions.

Devil dixit :)

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:47 pm
by Devil
Happy in Cyprus wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:34 pm Enter "is it OK to use and at the beginning of a sentence" into Google and you will find that almost without exception, every single site says that it is; with the general proviso that you should not go overboard in the use of a preposition in this way.
Just goes to show that Google is not faultless. And is never a preposition; it is a conjunction!

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:04 pm
by Dominic
It became acceptable to start a sentence with "And" some time ago. It is not a new thing. If you don't like it, I am afraid you will have to invent a time machine.

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:53 pm
by jagwheels
I should have posted a smiley after my post but it has encouraged some interesting responses :D

All languages evolve & change over time but if you could abolish some words or saying's which ones would you ban?

To get you started, here's some that would make my list:

Blue sky thinking
Capacity building
Framework agreements
Going forward
Place shaping
Stakeholders
Strategic partners/priorities
Transformational
Value-added
Worklessness

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:14 pm
by Cactuslil
Why is it necessary for young people to start to answer a question with”so”? I find that extremely irritating as well.

We should rename this section “old farts blog”😊

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:21 pm
by Devil
Happy in Cyprus wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:58 pm You don't have to look far. Just perusing the Sunday Mail and Sunday Times over lunchtime I came across the examples below. In two of these instances, the word 'And' was used at the start of a paragraph. ;)
The first two examples are acceptable but I'm adamant that you cannot start a new paragraph with and. It is not only bad grammar, it is senseless. A new paragraph is meant as a break in thought; And conjoins a plurality of thoughts. Of course, newspapers, like the ones quoted, are not the paragons of grammatical virtue. They lower themselves to populist levels.

Re: Grammer

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:03 pm
by Dominic
Indeed. Imagine if we still spoke and thought like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT6cB6vMWYU