Re: Changes to UK/Cypriot Double Taxation Agreement
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:52 pm
Hudswell
I have this afternoon been reading the actual proposed 2018 Agreement (yet to be ratified)and the relevant provision to which your quotation refers can be found in Article 18. This is clearly a shortening of the relevant article 19 of the 1974 Agreement. However I am having trouble reconciling the wording as to my mind it is somewhat ambiguous. Consequently I have sent an enquiry both to HMRC and the British Consulate seeking clarification of the wording (which I would add is slightly different to those you have quoted and those in Article 18).
I can see some essence in the government's thinking if it is to be interpreted as you have quoted in that, as the Government personnel now retired are receiving pensions provided out of State funds, then it follows any tax liability should go to the country from whence it is paid. But and it is a big but why should that be the only criteria? To my knowledge individuals have made enhanced personal contributions to their pension funds etc. I feel that once this is released there will be more than dismay expressed by those concerned.
As an example re wording one subsection of Article 18 refers to ........unless the person is a resident of Contracting State and a national.
In Article 4 para 3(a) a person is deemed resident only of State in which he has permanent home available to him - if in both States deemed resident only of State in which personal and economic relations are closer.
I am wondering whether the Yellow Form we are all being urged to replace might give some added status after all - albeit it is a "permit of residence" not of a "national".
Cannot understand why the British Consulate has not published what is, to some people (myself included), a rather important piece of legislation affecting their livelihoods.
If anything positive comes from my enquiries I will post again.
Rita
I have this afternoon been reading the actual proposed 2018 Agreement (yet to be ratified)and the relevant provision to which your quotation refers can be found in Article 18. This is clearly a shortening of the relevant article 19 of the 1974 Agreement. However I am having trouble reconciling the wording as to my mind it is somewhat ambiguous. Consequently I have sent an enquiry both to HMRC and the British Consulate seeking clarification of the wording (which I would add is slightly different to those you have quoted and those in Article 18).
I can see some essence in the government's thinking if it is to be interpreted as you have quoted in that, as the Government personnel now retired are receiving pensions provided out of State funds, then it follows any tax liability should go to the country from whence it is paid. But and it is a big but why should that be the only criteria? To my knowledge individuals have made enhanced personal contributions to their pension funds etc. I feel that once this is released there will be more than dismay expressed by those concerned.
As an example re wording one subsection of Article 18 refers to ........unless the person is a resident of Contracting State and a national.
In Article 4 para 3(a) a person is deemed resident only of State in which he has permanent home available to him - if in both States deemed resident only of State in which personal and economic relations are closer.
I am wondering whether the Yellow Form we are all being urged to replace might give some added status after all - albeit it is a "permit of residence" not of a "national".
Cannot understand why the British Consulate has not published what is, to some people (myself included), a rather important piece of legislation affecting their livelihoods.
If anything positive comes from my enquiries I will post again.
Rita