Re: Pound/ Euro
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:15 am
Immigration is a part of modern life, but it needs to be controlled- it's that simple.
Under EU rules not only is it uncontrollable, it becomes self fuelling- one person leaves let's say an Eastern European country, establishes a foothold in the UK so that their relatives find it easier to follow suit and get established themselves and so on and so forth. That theory would help explain why Tony's 30,000 became 600,000
So we may see an increase in GDP because of the increased economic activity such migration brings, but we are seeing falling living standards and diminishing social services as the population increases, primarily amongst the low earning, less skilled sections of the "community" that receive more from the state in their lifetime than they ever can contribute
It puts pressure on the limited housing stock, it puts downward pressure on wages (zero hour contracts etc) leads to a rise in black market employment (because income can be supplemented by benefits) and all in all for many parts of the UK freedom of movement has been a complete and utter disaster for the residents (even some of the existing immigrants have had enough)
No one even knows how many people have arrived here - official estimates say 300,000 net per annum but the number may be a lot higher. You cannot plan anything if you have no idea how many people are arriving legally entitled to free education for their kids, subsided housing and free health care (and of course in the light of the UK's decision to quit the 2 transitory year period will see a spike in these numbers as people settle before it becomes a more complicated process )
That is not racism- that is just good old fashioned common sense. Pyramid selling and Ponzi schemes are illegal in the real world, but that is precisely what is going on in the UK at the moment with EU Freedom of Movement and EU expansion policies
quick ps- my step daughter works in the NHS - some of the stories she could tell you are unbelievable, but true. One recent case involved an elderly Polish man who came to the UK effectively to die. He is currently in a UK nursing at astronomical cost to the UK taxpayer (literally thousands per week) which makes some of the recent NHS pay increases little more than laughable. It may even be that he is being looked after by Polish care workers employed by the NHS !!!!
Under EU rules not only is it uncontrollable, it becomes self fuelling- one person leaves let's say an Eastern European country, establishes a foothold in the UK so that their relatives find it easier to follow suit and get established themselves and so on and so forth. That theory would help explain why Tony's 30,000 became 600,000
So we may see an increase in GDP because of the increased economic activity such migration brings, but we are seeing falling living standards and diminishing social services as the population increases, primarily amongst the low earning, less skilled sections of the "community" that receive more from the state in their lifetime than they ever can contribute
It puts pressure on the limited housing stock, it puts downward pressure on wages (zero hour contracts etc) leads to a rise in black market employment (because income can be supplemented by benefits) and all in all for many parts of the UK freedom of movement has been a complete and utter disaster for the residents (even some of the existing immigrants have had enough)
No one even knows how many people have arrived here - official estimates say 300,000 net per annum but the number may be a lot higher. You cannot plan anything if you have no idea how many people are arriving legally entitled to free education for their kids, subsided housing and free health care (and of course in the light of the UK's decision to quit the 2 transitory year period will see a spike in these numbers as people settle before it becomes a more complicated process )
That is not racism- that is just good old fashioned common sense. Pyramid selling and Ponzi schemes are illegal in the real world, but that is precisely what is going on in the UK at the moment with EU Freedom of Movement and EU expansion policies
quick ps- my step daughter works in the NHS - some of the stories she could tell you are unbelievable, but true. One recent case involved an elderly Polish man who came to the UK effectively to die. He is currently in a UK nursing at astronomical cost to the UK taxpayer (literally thousands per week) which makes some of the recent NHS pay increases little more than laughable. It may even be that he is being looked after by Polish care workers employed by the NHS !!!!