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Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:36 pm
by Paphos Life
The problems and delays in implementing the first phase of the new Paphos-Polis Chrysochous road were discussed with the Minister of Transport, Communications, and Works by the Vice President of DIKO and Paphos MP, Chrysanthos Savvides, a few days after the parliamentary Transport Committee’s engagement with the issue. As stated to PafosNet by Savvides, Alexis […]
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Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:42 pm
by Dominic
The only work I have seen done recently is right at the top, where the motorway will rejoin the B7. Other than that there doesn't appear to be any progress at the moment.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:25 am
by Ams
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:56 pm
by Yioula
The A6 from the Aphrodite turning to Paphos took forever, at the time never though it would be completed, hopefully it won’t take as long !!!!
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 11:22 am
by Sadie
The journey from Polemi to Paphos & return is a nightmare with heavy traffic on the road, it’s wise to add at least 10/15 minutes to your journey if you need to be somewhere by a certain time
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 12:32 pm
by cyprusmax47
This article, even if you read it 3 times, tells you nothing why there is a delay, only talks about meetings and meetings...
Some weeks ago I was reading in the press, that the contractor wants nearly 3 years more time and extra 22 million Euros extra money for farious reasons.
I already questioned years ago, after the contract was signed, the low construction costs of 86 million for this difficult project with 2 tunnels etc...
So here part of the article:
"While according to the contracts, the first phase from Agia Marinouda to Stroumpi, with a length of 15 kilometers and a cost of 86 million, should be completed by the end of the year, the Director of the Public Works Department revealed during today’s visit of the MPs that only 35% of the total work has been completed so far. The company is demanding an additional 33 months and another 22 million from the initial agreement for the project’s completion."
Source:
https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/local/d ... y-project/
Max
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 4:46 pm
by wantoosoon
When the first stage is completed, I wonder how many people will use it. Assuming most journeys to Polis start in Paphos rather than rather than coming from the motorway, will people bother driving out to Agia Marinouda just to drive along another two-lane road to Polemi, which will likely be no faster than the B7? If it's underused, people may then argue that the project shouldn't continue...
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 6:17 pm
by Dominic
I think your assumption is flawed. You are underestimating the amount of people who will use it as a quicker route to Limassol.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 6:19 pm
by Dominic
cyprusmax47 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:32 pm
This article, even if you read it 3 times, tells you nothing why there is a delay, only talks about meetings and meetings...
Some weeks ago I was reading in the press, that the contractor wants nearly 3 years more time and extra 22 million Euros extra money for farious reasons.
I already questioned years ago, after the contract was signed, the low construction costs of 86 million for this difficult project with 2 tunnels etc...
So here part of the article:
"While according to the contracts, the first phase from Agia Marinouda to Stroumpi, with a length of 15 kilometers and a cost of 86 million, should be completed by the end of the year, the Director of the Public Works Department revealed during today’s visit of the MPs that only 35% of the total work has been completed so far. The company is demanding an additional 33 months and another 22 million from the initial agreement for the project’s completion."
Source:
https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/local/d ... y-project/
Max
There hasn't been much sense in a lot of the articles. Blaming it on the wrong type of soil was I think an excuse they nicked from British Rail though.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 9:09 pm
by cyprusmax47
Most of the traffic towards Polis comes from the Limassol direction not from Paphos. Nearly all the goods of the supply chain with transport cars, as well as all tourist buses and rental cars come also from that direction as the two airports are in east of the country and Nicosia is still the main hub.
Specially the big lorries and buses are the ones which create traffic problems on the narrow, hilly road towards Polemi, not the normal cars.
Max
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 9:58 pm
by wantoosoon
I'm not convinced. It's a general rule that most traffic is local. The red plates are a small (if annoying) minority of vehicles, but there are very large numbers of locals who plough between Polis and Paphos every day. Many people live in one area and commute to the other. Courier companies and the like transship in Paphos.
For the western half of Paphos, venturing out to Agia Marinouda won't be worth the time and fuel, and certainly not until the Polis motorway has four lanes, if it ever does. Why would anyone drive further to be stuck behind the same traffic? Even when the new motorway is built, congestion on the B7 will continue to increase because most of the traffic on the route originates within the Paphos district, and the new motorway won't follow the most direct route that most drivers wish to take.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 6:14 pm
by Dominic
Well don't use it then.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:38 am
by cyprusmax47
wantoosoon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:58 pm
I'm not convinced. It's a general rule that most traffic is local. The red plates are a small (if annoying) minority of vehicles, but there are very large numbers of locals who plough between Polis and Paphos every day. Many people live in one area and commute to the other. Courier companies and the like transship in Paphos.
For the western half of Paphos, venturing out to Agia Marinouda won't be worth the time and fuel, and certainly not until the Polis motorway has four lanes, if it ever does. Why would anyone drive further to be stuck behind the same traffic? Even when the new motorway is built, congestion on the B7 will continue to increase because most of the traffic on the route originates within the Paphos district, and the new motorway won't follow the most direct route that most drivers wish to take.
If you are convinced or not, fact is that the economy of Paphos depends mainly on tourism and some agricultural products like bananas. So everything needed, comes from towns east of Paphos. Most materials for building sites, (iron, bricks, cement) petrol and much more has to be transported by large vehicles also to the Northwest (Polis, Argaka, Pomos, Pyrgos). All these lorries will not enter Paphos when their destination is the Polis area, but use instead the new motorway.
As I mentioned in my post above, the normal car traffic does not create big problems on the old B7 even not at the hill to Tsada but big lorries and tourist buses do.
Max
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 2:13 pm
by Dominic
Not only that but one of the selling points was that it would make the inland villages more attractive as places to live for Cypriots wanting to work in Limassol.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:40 am
by Kili01
However, from recent reports the whole project is now mired in financial difficulties with the construction company demanding something like 20M to complete it, in recent press reports. If this is true, why was the original quote reflecting the true cost of what is obviously a very expensive project involving 2 tunnels under mountains and removal of tons of soil which is needed to construct the connecting roadways not calculated more accurately?
Dee
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 11:58 am
by Paul
I read an article that this new road was to cost 200 million for the 31 kilo meters of road.
If this is right the cost per kilo meter is €6,451,612
just divided the 200 million by 31 and you get the above cost
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am
by Ams
wantoosoon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:58 pm
I'm not convinced. It's a general rule that most traffic is local. The red plates are a small (if annoying) minority of vehicles, but there are very large numbers of locals who plough between Polis and Paphos every day. Many people live in one area and commute to the other. Courier companies and the like transship in Paphos.
For the western half of Paphos, venturing out to Agia Marinouda won't be worth the time and fuel, and certainly not until the Polis motorway has four lanes, if it ever does. Why would anyone drive further to be stuck behind the same traffic? Even when the new motorway is built, congestion on the B7 will continue to increase because most of the traffic on the route originates within the Paphos district, and the new motorway won't follow the most direct route that most drivers wish to take.
Sure, people living in the western part of Paphos may not use the new road, but, hello, some of us live here in the Eastern part and there is a substantial community over here. Not to mention, as others have said, the airport, Pissouri, anyone/supplies coming from Limassol.... I can't wait for the road to be open.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 5:46 pm
by Kili01
All of this estimated number of road users of the new road will only help if the additional 20M euros which is being demanded by the construction company to finish the existing contract to build the new road, is forthcoming.
Furthermore, is it a false economy to spend so much money on a single lane road, which will probably need to be upgraded to a dual carriageway in due course- at further cost?
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 6:39 pm
by trevnhil
It puzzles me if it is a single-carriageway how do you get past the heavily laden wagons.. It is still going to be an incline up to the far side of Stroumbi.
Re: Concerns mount over Paphos road project setbacks
Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:17 pm
by Dominic
They were doing more work at the Stroumbi end again today.
