Paphos Life

Useful info for people wanting to live in Cyprus.
https://cyprusinstyle.com/2021/08/02/la ... eOPPxwjbVc

A good law firm. Demetris handled my property purchase and Dual Nationality seemlessly.

I wasn't trying to advertise any law firm, I only posted for the information, that might help someone.

I appreciate that. It just happened to be my Lawyer.

What would be regarded enough of secure annual income for a category F permit?

We met George at Place in Sun roadshow Manchester last yr, kept in touch and also managed our house purchase

jeba wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:33 pm What would be regarded enough of secure annual income for a category F permit?

Depends on what sort of shops, your other half likes to shop at

WHL wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:45 pm

jeba wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:33 pm What would be regarded enough of secure annual income for a category F permit?

Depends on what sort of shops, your other half likes to shop at

Perfumeries. Those selling Chanel.

jeba wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:33 pm What would be regarded enough of secure annual income for a category F permit?

You should be able to get it with a fixed income of €35,000 per year for a couple, including own house or low cost housing but excluding any special conditions. Under similar conditions, a single person would need the full €19,350 to remain income tax free.

Devil wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:11 pm

jeba wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:33 pm What would be regarded enough of secure annual income for a category F permit?

You should be able to get it with a fixed income of €35,000 per year for a couple, including own house or low cost housing but excluding any special conditions. Under similar conditions, a single person would need the full €19,350 to remain income tax free.

Is that on top of the € 30000 in savings you should have? If so, it's much stricter than it is for EU citizens. I know of a Brit who applied for a MEU1 during the transition period and for who € 10000 savings plus a pension of € 550/month was sufficient.

A good article, whether you know this lawyer or not! I thought it was very clearly set out, particularly since the rules for residency and permanent resident have changed considerably since Brexit for Brits. Am glad that I got mine all sorted out in the run up to it.
It should be required reading for anyone who is thinking of coming to live in Cyprus.
Thanks for posting.

Dee

jeba wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:36 pm
Is that on top of the € 30000 in savings you should have? If so, it's much stricter than it is for EU citizens. I know of a Brit who applied for a MEU1 during the transition period and for who € 10000 savings plus a pension of € 550/month was sufficient.

It is my experience that the Migration department makes it up as they go along for individual cases. For example, someone renting accommodation would be asked for a higher income than if they their own property, which makes sense. I think the criteria may be that, after paying the rent, there is still sufficient to live on. They probably also take into account the expected standard of living (in luxury or on a shoestring). There may be a host of hidden things like the way you comport yourself and the kind of clothes you're wearing. In other words, it may seem arbitrary the way they make their decisions but you can never tell.

The point that I was really making was that those with their own house, a reasonable level of savings and sufficient regular income will find it a lot easier to get a permit than anybody trying when they have neither fixed means nor a property. At no time would it be acceptable for anybody to have to rely on the state to even get a flight out, leaving the country with debts.

Devil wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:19 pm
The point that I was really making was that those with their own house, a reasonable level of savings and sufficient regular income will find it a lot easier to get a permit than anybody trying when they have neither fixed means nor a property.

What I´d like to know is whether the criteria for what is regarded reasonable savings and income differ between EU-citizens and third country nationals.

jeba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:02 am

Devil wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:19 pm
The point that I was really making was that those with their own house, a reasonable level of savings and sufficient regular income will find it a lot easier to get a permit than anybody trying when they have neither fixed means nor a property.

What I´d like to know is whether the criteria for what is regarded reasonable savings and income differ between EU-citizens and third country nationals.

Eu citizens have the automatic right to live in Cyprus, third country nationals do not.

Good information provided there and very handy to use as a comparison for applications to other EU countries.

Spain has a similar procedure for those looking for a residency without working - they call it a non-lucrative visa.

We're slowly working our way around the various systems, all a little different in terms and conditions as well as financial requirements.

We're also wondering how long it will take before such processes begin to be reviewed and amended.

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:34 am Eu citizens have the automatic right to live in Cyprus, third country nationals do not.

… Only on condition that they can prove that they will not be a burden on the state i.e. that they have a large amount of money available or a fixed regular income or other means to support themselves, including means of housing. Any indigenous EU citizen on poverty line would be requested to leave if entry had happened.

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:34 am

jeba wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:02 am What I´d like to know is whether the criteria for what is regarded reasonable savings and income differ between EU-citizens and third country nationals.

Eu citizens have the automatic right to live in Cyprus, third country nationals do not.

That doesn´t answer my question. Are there different requirements regarding financial resources, or would a third country national qualify for residence if they fulfil the requirements for EU citizens (which are quite low).

Devil wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:43 pm

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:34 am Eu citizens have the automatic right to live in Cyprus, third country nationals do not.

… Only on condition that they can prove that they will not be a burden on the state i.e. that they have a large amount of money available or a fixed regular income or other means to support themselves, including means of housing. Any indigenous EU citizen on poverty line would be requested to leave if entry had happened.

I dont think that is correct, how do you explain the large amount of Greek/Eastern European beggar's, that hang around outside supermarkets, im sure they dont work, nor have a large wedge of money coming in every month?

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:24 pm
I dont think that is correct, how do you explain the large amount of Greek/Eastern European beggar's, that hang around outside supermarkets, im sure they dont work, nor have a large wedge of money coming in every month?

Who said that they were legal immigrants? There are plenty of bodies crawling through the green line, out of sight of the border officials or police.

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:24 pm
I dont think that is correct, how do you explain the large amount of Greek/Eastern European beggar's, that hang around outside supermarkets, im sure they dont work, nor have a large wedge of money coming in every month?

There is an EU regulation giving each member state the right to demand proof that even an EU immigrant won´t become a burden on the taxpayer. I´d be very surprised if Cyprus didn´t make use of that. Why else would they ask for proof of your financial resources if you apply for an MEU1?