Paphos Life

Please can any explain what the costs are for having a operation done on Gesy?

Is there a document that tells you of the costs?

Would like to hear from people who have had a operations in the last 3 months.

Many thanks in advance.

Having had a lens replacement for cataracts, under Gesy, just one month ago, I paid a fee to the anaesthetist and was advised of this in advance, it was €25 and the standard (?) €6 for the consultant.The procedure was carried out in a private clinic.
I think the anaesthetist charges are because most are not enrolled as Gesy providers.

Just had to pay for the consultation with the surgeon when he decided an operation was necessary (€6) and the x-ray of the part being operated on (€10), pre-operative blood tests (€3), chest x-ray (€10) and cardiologist (€6) and anaesthetist (€6) due to ECG showing a slightly abnormal reading.

Also included in the cost after the operation on GESY there were a set number of free consultations and free physiotherapy sessions ie it was charged as a package rather than separately. Just as the surgeon is given a number of inpatient days for a person to stay in hospital for that particular type of operation (in this case it was 3 nights).

What if you choose to be operated in a hospital which hasn´t joined GESY? Will you have to pay the full cost yourself or just the balance between what it would have cost under GESY and the actual cost?

I had an operation on my spine one week ago today and additional to all the other costs already stated was a Cat Scan which cost €10 plus a Covid PCR test which cost €75.

Jim

jeba wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:17 am What if you choose to be operated in a hospital which hasn´t joined GESY? Will you have to pay the full cost yourself or just the balance between what it would have cost under GESY and the actual cost?

Thats a good question.So is there a list ( obtainable somewhere ) of hospitals that are in GESY and those that are not.

I must admit that I don't know of a hospital in the Paphos area that is not in Gesy.
But of course, I don't think jeba is in the Paphos region

I had a biopsy to rule out giant cell arteritis at the Hippocratic Clinic which is also GESY. I paid €6 to the surgeon and it cost us €120 to 'rent' the operating room for 15 minutes.

Ah, now that is a 'New' thing to me. I know someone who has had an op in the Evangelismos and they did not have to pay to 'rent' the theatre.

Chaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:42 am Thats a good question.So is there a list ( obtainable somewhere ) of hospitals that are in GESY and those that are not.

This is the list of the GESY contracted inpatient hospitals/clinics. https://www.gesy.org.cy/sites/Sites?d= ... 7.20-0.pdf

Jeanne

kansas wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:16 am I had a biopsy to rule out giant cell arteritis at the Hippocratic Clinic which is also GESY. I paid €6 to the surgeon and it cost us €120 to 'rent' the operating room for 15 minutes.

That´s part of the background to my question. Americans often have to deal with this kind of problem. E. g. the surgeon belongs to the network of a specific insurance but the hospital or anaesthetist doesn´t. Are private hospitals which are part of GESY offering the same standard of service for GESY patients as they do for private patients? Or will you have to share your room with 3 others if you´re GESY insured? Can you get e.g. a private room and/or choose to be operated by the head surgeon and only pay the balance between what GESY pays and what you chose on top of that? Is there insurance available which covers that gap?

jeba wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:18 pm

kansas wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:16 am I had a biopsy to rule out giant cell arteritis at the Hippocratic Clinic which is also GESY. I paid €6 to the surgeon and it cost us €120 to 'rent' the operating room for 15 minutes.

That´s part of the background to my question. Americans often have to deal with this kind of problem. E. g. the surgeon belongs to the network of a specific insurance but the hospital or anaesthetist doesn´t. Are private hospitals which are part of GESY offering the same standard of service for GESY patients as they do for private patients? Or will you have to share your room with 3 others if you´re GESY insured? Can you get e.g. a private room and/or choose to be operated by the head surgeon and only pay the balance between what GESY pays and what you chose on top of that? Is there insurance available which covers that gap?

GESY has a limited budget, and I for one, do not want its money, ( of which I contribute) to be used for single bedrooms, and A la carte menus etc, If you or anyone else wants a bit of luxury, Im sure the clinic, will gladly do you a deal , were you pay cash for the extras you require.

I am seeing the same doctors and getting the same level of treatment with GESY as I did when I paid privately.
If anything the food as an inpatient has improved.

I have never found there to be a 2 tier system whenever I have used Gesy. I did have to pay 25 euros instead of 6 euros because I saw a doctor on a Saturday afternoon.

WHL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:26 pm If you or anyone else wants a bit of luxury, Im sure the clinic, will gladly do you a deal , were you pay cash for the extras you require.

I´m not so sure about that. The reason why I´m not sure is twofold:

1. I asked an insurance broker whether there is top-up insurance available to cover those frills and the answer was no. I´d think that if you could choose to pay more for luxury benefits the insurance industry would offer such top-up insurance.

2. If you get treatment at a hospital which doesn´t have a contract with GESY - who would pay for the basics (which would be covered by GESY if there was a contract in place). My guess is that you´d have to pay yourself (unless you have an additional insurance). I somehow doubt that Gesy will refund you the portion of the cost it saved by you choosing a GESY-contracted hospital. A non-GESY hospital (like e.g. the American Hospital in Nicosia) probably won´t even know how to bill you for extras only.

galexinda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:33 pm I am seeing the same doctors and getting the same level of treatment with GESY as I did when I paid privately.
If anything the food as an inpatient has improved.

That´s another thing I´m not sure about. I wouldn´t be surprised if when they say "doctors are educated on GESY" it means that doctors are told where the economic boundaries have to be set. Patients might not realise this as they won´t know whether e.g. one drug, pacemaker or insulin pump is more expensive than another (which may mean that it has benefits an alternative product may not have).

If you want to pay for a different drug than the one the doctor prescribes then you can do, that is your choice .. There are also some blood tests that the GP's cannot sanction on the Gesy system

trevnhil wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 pm If you want to pay for a different drug than the one the doctor prescribes then you can do, that is your choice .. There are also some blood tests that the GP's cannot sanction on the Gesy system

Would you have to pay the full price or just the difference between what you want and what was prescribed?

As far as I am aware you pay the full price

trevnhil wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 pm If you want to pay for a different drug than the one the doctor prescribes then you can do, that is your choice .. There are also some blood tests that the GP's cannot sanction on the Gesy system

Would you have to pay the full price or just the difference between what you want and what was prescribed? Could the phamacist give you something else than what your prescription says?