Paphos Life

As at the 3rd of June there were 2 countries in the EU with the following Covid 19 stats. Country A which has had 952 cases, that's 80 per 100,000 and 17 deaths and Country B which has had 25,066 cases, that's 516 per 100,000 (second highest in the EU) and 1658 deaths. So guess which one is exempt from the 14 day quarantine requirement................................Country B, where's the science in that ?????

Why did you label them Country A and Country B?

Just to illustrate the absurdity of it Dominic.................Country A is Cyprus and Country B is Ireland

Princebytor wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:34 am where's the science in that ?????

As you are talking about the UK, maybe the science is in the obvious fact that there is no border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, therefore policing it has become practically impossible. Perhaps the correct expression should be "pragmatic".

I think that the original poster was simply trying to illustrate the absurdity of Boris's lockdown.which has come too late anyway, as most countries reacted far quicker than the UK did to the threat of the Corona Virus. Now, as most countries in the EU have vastly reduced their cases of the virus, they are opening up again. Now when people are ready to travel, Boris introduces an untimely quarantine. Which should help skewer British Airlines who have already grounded all their aircraft for months and want to return to flying. They are cash starved having huge overheads.
Dee

Spot on Kili, just demonstrating that it can't be a decision based on science, any potential barrier is only as strong as it's weakest link. Unfortunately it's a political decision to deflect the growing criticism around the governments handling of the crisis, it will serve very little purpose now and will just prolong the economic pain.

Kili01 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:59 pm I think that the original poster was simply trying to illustrate the absurdity of Boris's lockdown.which has come too late anyway, as most countries reacted far quicker than the UK did to the threat of the Corona Virus. Now, as most countries in the EU have vastly reduced their cases of the virus, they are opening up again. Now when people are ready to travel, Boris introduces an untimely quarantine. Which should help skewer British Airlines who have already grounded all their aircraft for months and want to return to flying. They are cash starved having huge overheads.
Dee

The quarantine was decided by Cummings, to alleviate pressure on release of Cygnus data. Cummings did not clear it with any cabinet member.

Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:41 am Boris is only the figurehead for the Cummins administration

I don't share Devils and HIC's sense of humour this time. While HIC wrote that Boris is only the figurehead for the Cummins administration, which may be close to the truth,I don't think that is remotely funny! I think that its appalling that one unelected advisor has too much power.
Does it show that Boris is a weak and indecisive man who finds it difficult to make sensible, decisions? At a critical time in the history of Britain.

Dee

Its not rocket science,
Cummings is Rod Hull, and Boris the buffoon, is Emu,

Kili01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:48 am I don't share Devils and HIC's sense of humour this time. While HIC wrote that Boris is only the figurehead for the Cummins administration, which may be close to the truth,I don't think that is remotely funny! I think that its appalling that one unelected advisor has too much power.
Does it show that Boris is a weak and indecisive man who finds it difficult to make sensible, decisions? At a critical time in the history of Britain.

Dee

That would be something each of us has to decide. It appears to be a very similar situation to Blair and Campbell.

Boris was the editor of The Spectator magazine. Mrs Cummings now works for The Spectator. I'm just saying

Jimgym wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:19 am

Kili01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:48 am I don't share Devils and HIC's sense of humour this time. While HIC wrote that Boris is only the figurehead for the Cummins administration, which may be close to the truth,I don't think that is remotely funny! I think that its appalling that one unelected advisor has too much power.
Does it show that Boris is a weak and indecisive man who finds it difficult to make sensible, decisions? At a critical time in the history of Britain.

Dee

That would be something each of us has to decide. It appears to be a very similar situation to Blair and Campbell.

I don't understand why you keep dragging Tony Blair into the equation; he's been gone around twelve years and there been four other Prime Ministers since then.
Alistair Cambell was Blairs Press Secretary, yes he put spin on government policy but he didn't set policy like Cummings does so theres no comparison.

Jim

Lets face it Boris is a bumbling oaf who got elected on a one trick pony (i.e. Lets get Brexit Done). If Corbyn had not been so unelectable, for various reasons, Labour might have got in. Just watch PMQs every Wednesday and you will see how Starmer takes him to the cleaners. His strategy when asking his allocated number of questions is to respond to BJ's answer to the previous question, before going on to his own next question thereby not giving BJ a chance to respond and having to answer the next question.

Starmer can think on his feet and articulate sentences into questions and answers.
That's something BoJo cannot do.
And when he starts to feel the pressure you can see his temperature starting to get the better of him. That will eventually be his downfall, I believe.
Next slogan #GetBoJoDone

Jim B wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:12 am

Jimgym wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:19 am

Kili01 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:48 am I don't share Devils and HIC's sense of humour this time. While HIC wrote that Boris is only the figurehead for the Cummins administration, which may be close to the truth,I don't think that is remotely funny! I think that its appalling that one unelected advisor has too much power.
Does it show that Boris is a weak and indecisive man who finds it difficult to make sensible, decisions? At a critical time in the history of Britain.

Dee

That would be something each of us has to decide. It appears to be a very similar situation to Blair and Campbell.

I don't understand why you keep dragging Tony Blair into the equation; he's been gone around twelve years and there been four other Prime Ministers since then.
Alistair Cambell was Blairs Press Secretary, yes he put spin on government policy but he didn't set policy like Cummings does so theres no comparison.

Jim

Where do I keep"dragging Blair into it"? If you can't see the very obvious comparisons between Campbell and Cummings then nothing I can say will help! If you are naive enough to think Campbell didn't influence Blair, like Cummings appears to Johnson, then there's little point in continuing

Alan
I don't think it's me being naive, Cumming is the senior special advisor who advises and assists in setting Blojo's government policy.
Cambell was Press Secretary who advised on putting the policy developed by Blairs government into the public domain, totally different to what you're suggesting.

Jim

Jim B wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:27 pm Alan
I don't think it's me being naive, Cumming is the senior special advisor who advises and assists in setting Blojo's government policy.
Cambell was Press Secretary who advised on putting the policy developed by Blairs government into the public domain, totally different to what you're suggesting.

Jim

If you believe Campbell & Cummings are not operating in the same manner then so be it, you are wrong, but that is your perogative.

At the time I remember that Campbell used to be called a spin doctor, who was very good at putting a spin on Govt policy to the media. But I believe that Blair was an entirely different character who decided Govt policy with his cabinet ministers. It is perhaps unfortunate that he fell under the influence of George Bush...
Not like Boris and his band of inexperienced ministers, who lack good leadership. The buck stops with Boris who isn't right person for this job. I fear that all this will eventually lead to financial disaster if it is coupled with an un planned no deal Brexit.

Dee

Boris has been seriously ill recently as we all know. I do not believe that he is as yet, fully recovered from the virus. Cut the man some slack.