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				Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:39 pm
				by Reesy
				With the reversal of the benefits of wearing face masks and speculation that the government may make wearing a face mask mandatory outside , I repeat my my question of a few weeks ago...where can you obtain these items...when we were being told they offered little or no protection against , they were impossible to find..now it is a must have item , who knows how and when they will be readily available.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:59 pm
				by trevnhil
				Reesy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:39 pm
With the reversal of the benefits of wearing face masks and speculation that the government may make wearing a face mask mandatory outside , I repeat my my question of a few weeks ago...where can you obtain these items...when we were being told they offered little or no protection against , they were impossible to find..now it is a must have item , who knows how and when they will be readily available.
 
Can you post the source of us having to wear this 'Must have item' ie a mask..
There are a lot of scare stories going around  like the one the other day that only one person was allowed in a car 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:36 pm
				by Reesy
				Today ...Senior government adviser  Leondios Kostrikis...Quote” it is imperative to wear face masks in public places “ ...seems common sense to me that wearing a mask can only be positive. What harm can it do?
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:46 pm
				by J B
				From the World Health Organisation ... 
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... -use-masks
When to use a mask
If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.
Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent hand-cleaning with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water.
If you wear a mask, then you must know how to use it and dispose of it properly.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:46 pm
				by Mrblobby
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:29 pm
				by galexinda
				For the ladies:
I posted a link - but Dominic's is far better so I have removed it.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:44 pm
				by Dominic
				This was posted on the Paphos Chat Facebook Group:
			
		
				
			
 
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				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:46 am
				by kansas
				We bought ours on Ebay quite some time ago but only bought a few because at that time they were thought not to be particularly effective.   We wear them + gloves when we go into supermarkets because, apart from anything else, I think it makes other people feel more comfortable IMHO.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:53 am
				by trevnhil
				I just wear gloves and dump them on the way out
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:08 am
				by Devil
				one nose drip or sneeze behind or in front of a mask and it must be changed. They don't last for ever.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:34 pm
				by jeba
				Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:12 am
Cortrect, most are single-use.  And if they get moist from breathing in and out on a prolongued basis, surely that makes it easier for virus/bacteria to stick to the mask?
 
You could reuse them after heating them to 70 deg Celsius for 15 min (I do that in my thermofan).
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:06 pm
				by Diocletian
				There are washable ones on the market. Amazon UK are almost entirely sold out but on eBay you can get them for the 11th April..........from China lol
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
				by Mighty Sprite
				Regarding home-made masks I was intrigued by how effective they might be as most are made, or the designs are put out, by amateurs, probably without any medical training.
Anyway, I have some dust masks of the DIY type that you do see being worn so I went looking for particle sizes.
The dust monitoring that Cyprus carrys out and publishes is for dust particles of 10µm and 2.5µm.  From wikipedia surgical masks have to be approved in America and one of the tests is using 0.1µm spheres.  That is 25 times and 100 times smaller than the dust particles!
This would suggest that dust masks are not a suitable alternative to the real thing and it would also suggest that if Cyprus is to make them mandatory then advice should be given as to what is a suitable material to make your own.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:53 pm
				by jeba
				Mighty Sprite wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
This would suggest that dust masks are not a suitable alternative to the real thing and it would also suggest that if Cyprus is to make them mandatory then advice should be given as to what is a suitable material to make your own.
 
They won´t protect you from catching the virus via aerosol droplets but they they offer some level of protection against you infecting others in case you´re infected (which you might not even know)-
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:21 pm
				by Varky
				If the wearing of masks is to be made mandatory then the powers that be must make  suitable masks available to be purchased in sufficient quantities to cover walking dogs, exercising, shopping etc. which are allowed under present regulations. It is not sufficient just to make an announcement without the back up. That would cause a lot of stress with the minimum of results. They must think things through.
Full enforcement of penalties of multiple person gatherings without separation would be more effective.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:08 pm
				by Devil
				If masks were mandatory, how could anyone check whether they had never been worn before. Somebody should invent a mask that, say, changes colour after being exposed to humid respiration after n hours of use. I'd guess that many masks we see have been used for several days and are probably much more dangerous than no mask to the wearer and, to a smaller extent, to those speaking with the wearer.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:48 pm
				by jeba
				Devil wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:08 pm
If masks were mandatory, how could anyone check whether they had never been worn before. Somebody should invent a mask that, say, changes colour after being exposed to humid respiration after n hours of use. I'd guess that many masks we see have been used for several days and are probably much more dangerous than no mask to the wearer and, to a smaller extent, to those speaking with the wearer.
 
You could use a selfmade mask from washable material so it can be reused. Or simply wear a burkha 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:14 pm
				by jeba
				Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:00 pm
Ah, but that's what politicians do all the time; bring out knee-jerk legislation without thinking things through.  Closing supermarkets on Sunday is another example.
 
What? Are supermarkets now closed on Sundays?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:49 pm
				by Kili01
				Yes.
			 
			
					
				Re: Face masks
				Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:12 am
				by Jimgward
				What the ‘;experts’ fail to say about mask wearing, is that someone who is contagious and wearing a mask, will not sneeze, cough or blow over you, thereby preventing much of the spread. Forget the protection aspect.