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Indoctrination of children

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:45 am
by Jim B
This is where were going, sending Brexit propaganda to primary school children. Smacks of North Korea.

Jim

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/25/brexit-p ... -10809109/

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:55 pm
by Firefly
If it's true.

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:47 pm
by Jim B

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:18 am
by Firefly
After reading the link, these slides have also included anti-Brexit protests, why have you only pointed the finger at Boris, why not say no politics in schools ?

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:47 pm
by Jim B
Where did I mention Boris?

Jim

Re: Indoctrination of child

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:51 pm
by Jimgward
Firefly wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:18 am After reading the link, these slides have also included anti-Brexit protests, why have you only pointed the finger at Boris, why not say no politics in schools ?
The newspapers mentioned that it was Boris propoganda.

Shocking it happened and never should have

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:13 pm
by Firefly
Jim B

The second link you posted specifically mentioned Boris.

Please answer my question, why indoctrination of children on the Brexit side, when both sides are mentioned ?

Jimgw

Shocking that politics should be involved at all in schooling. Plenty of time for that after they have left school.

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:11 pm
by Jim B
You should really take it up with the Guardian; at no time did "I" mention Boris and neither stated favour for or against Brexit, only against Brexit propaganda being sent to schoolchildren.

Jim

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:22 pm
by Firefly
No, but the article you posted the link to did.

I ask again, why do you oppose Bexit propaganda, and not remain propaganda ?

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:12 pm
by Jim B
Jacki

You initially insinuated in your first reply the first link was possibly untrue so I posted a second link to confirm the first link was factual, not for the content of the second link.
I don't believe any children should be indoctrinated, full stop.

Jim

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:07 pm
by Firefly
Jim

I did not insinuate, I questioned the truth of it.

At least we agree that support for Brexit or remain should not be displayed in schools.

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:22 pm
by Dominic
This is a storm in a teacup. It sounds like some filler film giving both sides of the story which was just put there to provide something other than a blank screen to look at.

Why shouldn't kids be given balanced current knowledge? What's the point of just teaching them history?

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:44 pm
by Firefly
Don't you think that children at school these days have enough pressure, without trying to get their heads round politics ?

Indeed, adults have enough of a problem understanding the subject. As for History, a lot of British history is not taught at schools anymore.

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:17 pm
by Jimgward
This was Pre-12 schools. Kids. Young kids.

Re: Indoctrination of children

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:06 pm
by Dominic
Firefly wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:44 pm Don't you think that children at school these days have enough pressure, without trying to get their heads round politics ?

Indeed, adults have enough of a problem understanding the subject. As for History, a lot of British history is not taught at schools anymore.
When I did history, it went as far as the Tudors and Stewarts, before I dropped out at the end of the 3rd year (what they now call year 9).

In contrast, my children were both taught about both world wars as well as more 19th and 20th century History. I remember the very nice Anderson Shelter our daughter made as a Year 6 project.

With regards to politics, I guess it all depends on how the facts are presented. But it is important that kids be at least made aware that politics exists. Otherwise, all they will see are the online calls to action (climate change etc). A nodding aquaintance with political reality can help give a better understanding to why things are the way they are, and why some things haven't yet been changed. It's easy to say no to air flight etc when you don't appreciate the cost implications etc. Children need to be able to recognise that things are rarely black and white.

It all depends on what was actually shown. From what I read, it covered both sides of the debate. And I honestly doubt whether that many kids paid attention anyway.