Paphos Life

Here's a thought for the people on this forum who regard people who voted out as moronic idiots.....There are several countries in the EU including la belle France, who export many tons of fruit and vegetables to the UK. They do this by starting their growing seasons for various foods after the UKs growing season is coming to an end. They do this because the UK is their biggest export customer. So I assume your Junckers,Merkels et al will just throw more subsidies to the growers as compensation for loss of business. I wonder where those millions will come from?The Irish PM has stated quite openly that no UK aircraft will be allowed into Ireland if there is no agreement on free travel. That will get right up the noses of Irish tourists because the only place they could fly to without entering British controlled airspace is Tenerife. The UK controls many many thousands of square miles airspace to the west of the Irish Atlantic coast which would also affect every EU airline flying to the Americas, assuming the UK stopped allowing them to fly as a retaliation for the idiot statement that UK flights would not be allowed into EU countries. I don't agree with Mrs Mays offerings to the EU, I would much rather we left and see what happens when the realization hits that the EU does need us, if only for the above two observations. However those two observations are unlikely to happen because the UK would not stoop so low as to start making the sort of threats that that fine upstanding organization the EU is making to the UK. Of course, HiC and Ohsuzy will poo poo this post as the sainted EU can do no wrong. I will believe the pound is weaker than the euro when the rate reads £0.something to €1. Which no doubt will be the case on March 30, 2019 because that's when the UK becomes third world according to certain members on this forum. Bring it on.

Outasite
I would suggest that the EU member countries are quite prepared to take the hit on trade as they hold the values of the EU as more important than sales to the UK and that's what most British don't appear to comprehend.

Jim

Oh Jim that really is burying your head in the sand! Of course their values are very important to them but do not think for one minute that their billions of trade with the UK is not.There is a vast trade surplus as well you know.

Tyelaw
I never said their trade wasn't important to them; I said their values are more important. At the end of the day people in the UK will still want Mercs and BMWs and Audi' s and VW' s and will be prepared to pay extra to get them. I really can't see that happening for volume cars made in the UK apart from maybe Land rover.
The UK has little heavy industry, we don't manufacture anything I can think of on a grand scale these days. We couldn't even fabricate the London Eye, we had to go to Slovakia to get the main fulcrum cast. The UK is basically a service industry now moving money around but we are even losing our position in that as companies are already moving abroad. Project fact, not fear.
Jim

Ha ha!! Never fear Outasite, nothing to do with paragraphs,and all to do with not wanting to read the content of your post!
This criticism from someone who "mistakenly" put the exchange rate at 1.07!!

Tyelaw
I think when you have to fall back on either spelling errors or an ommission of letters or numbers to put your argument across you've lost. It was quite obvious it was a typing error as the actual figure was 1.1071 and not 1.071 as written but be as it may.

Outasite
As for food; the UK cannot produce enough to feed itself, that is a fact. The UK will have to import and if the same standards are met will have tp pay more unless you want to eat lower quality products.

Jim

Just maybe the UK could start by people growing vegetables and fruit in their own gardens, we always used to, those who didn't have enough room could rent an allotment. We don't HAVE to rely on the EU, it's all a matter of forward planning.

Leaving the EU means that we should be looking to see how we managed before we joined, and applying some of the same ways of life as we did then. As I said before, the EU will be shooting themselves in the foot if they fail to agree a deal.

Lloyd

We who voted leave, some who probably have a lot more experience of the world than you, are not stupid, and I take exception to your constant insults. I will not lower myself to your level by insulting fellow posters, they had their reasons to vote as they did, and some like you just couldn't be bothered. Please be respectful.

Jackie

Lloyd

'I can't take no more punishment' did teacher never tell you that two negatives make a positive ? I am not remotely interested in the state of your rear end, And OMG don't think of digging the garden, but of course you haven't much spare time, too much time spent posting insults about leavers.

If your latest post is the only reply to my post, perhaps you SHOULD go back to school. Learning some manners might be a good thing.

Firefly wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:20 pm Just maybe the UK could start by people growing vegetables and fruit in their own gardens, we always used to, those who didn't have enough room could rent an allotment. We don't HAVE to rely on the EU,
Jackie

I've read some amazing posts on this website over the past couple of years, but this wins the gold medal for me. It's out there among the stars. Amazing. Was that on the side of the bus?
As a Dutch journalist wrote yesterday, Britain - going "back to the Middle ages".

Statistics
Origins of food consumed in the UK 2017
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -uk-supply
Top 3 suppliers - UK 50%, EU 30%, Africa 4%.

outasite wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:05 am The UK controls many many thousands of square miles airspace to the west of the Irish Atlantic coast which would also affect every EU airline flying to the Americas, assuming the UK stopped allowing them to fly as a retaliation for the idiot statement that UK flights would not be allowed into EU countries.

I think just possibly you are confusing "landing" with "overfly".
Outasite, you need to read the Chicago Convention. Dating from 1944. Signed by the UK.
It has nothing to do with the EU.
It effectively guarantees the right of civil aviation to fly over the air space of signatory states without permission, but not necessarily to land.
Freedoms of the air
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air

I'm getting amazed how desperate the Brexiteers are getting. Growing our own fruit and veg, banning overflights, ....
What next - maybe threaten to drop a few atomic bombs because we have them and the Germans don't?

Besides, it should all be so easy!!
UKIP's Brexit spokesman Gerard Batten, 17 February 2017
"Trade relations with the EU could be sorted out in " an afternoon over a cup of coffee".

I don't believe many leave voters voted to return to post war austerity; most younger people would be horrified if it was suggested they have to take a sixty year step back in time. That's why most younger people support Remain.

Jim

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:51 pm What you all seem to forget, is that we are all "Brexiteers, because guess what, you hold a UK passport, you are leaving the EU, and perhaps if you got behind it, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

Hudswell, Hudswell. What are you writing?
"the mess we are in" ???
What mess, pray tell me?

You've been writing for the past year about how great things are going - and now - suddenly - we are in a mess??
Shock, Horror....
Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for May.

As for the sergeant major garbage about "if you got behind it",
Oh yes. Of course. All get behind the delightful Miss May. One nation... United. Ein Folk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer(in).
Forgive me, but enough of my family died fighting somebody who came out with similar garbage a few years' ago.

As the Devil said, in this thread, a few posts' ago,
What a load of twaddle! ...
As for your "elite" stupidity, it is not worthy of further comment!

N.B.
re Infamy
RIP Denis Norden. One of the greatest lines of comedy - written with Frank M.

Oh for Heaven's sake, what's wrong with you lot, horrified young people, because they might just have to move away from the computer and I Pad and actually get some exercise. I know many people who still grow fruit and vegetables, living in Cyprus.

To hold your hands up in horror at actually producing something edible yourselves, instead of taking the car to the supermarket, what a sad world it has become.

OS

Many thanks for the medal !

Firefly wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:35 pm instead of taking the car to the supermarket, what a sad world it has become.

I decided NOT to get a car because of my concerns for the environment and pollution.
Do I get a medal too, or the cane?

The size of most new build gardens in the UK would allow for the growth of a single potato per family.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:32 pm And please if you read my posts when I have ever said how "Great" BREXIT will be?

Thank you.
And apologies. I thought you wrote somewhere that you left school at 15 or 16, and did 39 years' service before retiring at 55?
Maybe I misinterpreted. Or got the wrong person. Whatever, apologies.

March 2017
Do you remember writing -

" I do believe that we have the leadership and drive to make Brexit a success, those that don't, just pour another G&T and pretend it ever happened....it will be "All right on the Night."

You didn't say it was a mess then. I'm not going to go through all your quotes.
I think we can at least agree - it is one right royal mess.

You are hitting new lows today HIC on this thread and on others. I hit the report button on one of your comments only to find that someone had beat me to it.. Grrrrrr..

Chill out Trev, good old banter... if people dish it out, they should be prepared to get it back.

I think both Hudswell and HIC should take a week off from posting about Brexit- they both increased their posts by almost 100 since last week...