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Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:24 pm
by PhotoLady
But the - anti Trump visit is still pipping it to the post with....
1,723,989 signatures
Both petitions to be discussed by Parliament on the same date: 20 February 2017
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:26 pm
by Wallace
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm
My head is fine Jim.
The U.K. Exports more than 51b to the US, more than it exports to Germany.
The difference being that imports from the US are much lower than from Germany, which helps the UK.
The US is vital to the UK economy, now and in the future.
Wallace
Comment on this keving, not the nonsense you read on Facebook or MSN.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:27 pm
by Wallace
Now at 158k signatures!
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:32 pm
by PhotoLady
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:24 pm
But the - anti Trump visit is still pipping it to the post with....
1,725,221 signatures
Both petitions to be discussed by Parliament on the same date: 20 February 2017
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:34 pm
by keving
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:26 pm
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm
My head is fine Jim.
The U.K. Exports more than 51b to the US, more than it exports to Germany.
The difference being that imports from the US are much lower than from Germany, which helps the UK.
The US is vital to the UK economy, now and in the future.
Wallace
Comment on this keving, not the nonsense you read on Facebook or MSN.
Not my job yet as Paphos Life economist ... I am waiting for Conoflex to pass the baton
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:36 pm
by keving
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:32 pm
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:24 pm
But the - anti Trump visit is still pipping it to the post with....
1,725,221 signatures
Both petitions to be discussed by Parliament on the same date: 20 February 2017
All idle expats will be tuning in!
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:40 pm
by Wallace
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:26 pm
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm
My head is fine Jim.
The U.K. Exports more than 51b to the US, more than it exports to Germany.
The difference being that imports from the US are much lower than from Germany, which helps the UK.
The US is vital to the UK economy, now and in the future.
Wallace
Comment on this keving, not the nonsense you read on Facebook or MSN.
So you cannot answer keving, did not expect you would.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:56 pm
by Steve - SJD
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:04 pm
Petition in support of Trump visit now at 154k, with no publicity in the mainstream news or press, in less than 24 hours.
With publicity it will grow exponentially.
It's been on the BBC website since early today and is in various national press in the UK.
The second petition is badly worded and the invite for a State visit premature imo.
Cheers
Steve
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:01 pm
by Wallace
Steve - SJD wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:56 pm
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:04 pm
Petition in support of Trump visit now at 154k, with no publicity in the mainstream news or press, in less than 24 hours.
With publicity it will grow exponentially.
It's been on the BBC website since early today and is in various national press in the UK.
The second petition is badly worded and the invite for a State visit premature imo.
Cheers
Steve
Suspect it will be later, rather than short term Steve, once the dust, if it does, settles.
Still waiting for Keving,s pearls of wisdom on the UK/US trade balance
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:03 pm
by Dominic
This is the Politics for Moderates section. Please respect each other while you debate, or have the debate in the main politics section.
To clarify, phrases like "Anybody who thinks... needs their head examined" belong in the main politics forum. Not here.
I do not object to the passion of the debate, just it's chosen location.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:07 pm
by Wallace
It's honestly not a problem Dominic, just the cut and thrust of a controversial subject.
Wallace
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:15 pm
by Dominic
I appreciate that. However, if I don't point it out here, somebody else will no doubt say "Well you let that through" at a later date. I have no objection to things getting heated. But let them get heated in the Political section.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:19 pm
by Wallace
Point taken, then move the thread to politics if you deem it necessary, but please don't bin it.
Wallace.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:25 pm
by Jimgward
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:59 pm
My head is fine Jim.
The U.K. Exports more than 51b to the US, more than it exports to Germany.
The difference being that imports from the US are much lower than from Germany, which helps the UK.
The US is vital to the UK economy, now and in the future.
Wallace
Glad to hear your head is fine....
While our exports to the US is not bad, it makes almost no difference to the US economy, accounting for less than 1.5% of its imports. We are also way behind Germany and even France....
Overall, our balance of payments is terrible, with us still importing 1/3rd more than we export. A massive number. The Tories, since coming to power, despite promises, have totally failed to lower the deficit, increase our GDP or pay off debts.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:57 am
by Dominic
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:19 pm
Point taken, then move the thread to politics if you deem it necessary, but please don't bin it.
Wallace.
I'm not going to bin this thread, nor move it. The Politics for Moderates forum is still in its infancy, and it is still finding it's balance, so to speak.I think the occasional reminder will serve better than binning or moving every thread that gets a bit heated.
Basically, let's all play it by ear and see how it turns out.

Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:41 am
by geoffreys
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:16 pm
Now 156k, 2000 sensible people in 2 minutes.
Compared to 17.4 million sensible people in UK who voted for Brexit!
Geoff.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:47 am
by keving
geoffreys wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:41 am
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:16 pm
Now 156k, 2000 sensible people in 2 minutes.
Compared to 17.4 million sensible people in UK who voted for Brexit!
Geoff.
17.4m sensible people v 16.1m half wits?
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:37 am
by geoffreys
keving wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:47 am
geoffreys wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:41 am
Wallace wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:16 pm
Now 156k, 2000 sensible people in 2 minutes.
Compared to 17.4 million sensible people in UK who voted for Brexit!
Geoff.
17.4m sensible people v 16.1m half wits?
Let's call them less sensible.
Geoff.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:00 am
by PhotoLady
It seems the sensible people have their fingers on the pulse with blocking Trumps" visit anyway... Heading for 1.8m signatures against around 190k on the We Want Trump petition.
Re: Petition in support of Trump UK visit
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:01 pm
by Rita Sherry
Sensible people have not blocked President Trumps visit some people have signed a petition which Parliament in its infinite wisdom has agreed to consider along with the one supporting such a visit. The invitation to a State Visit was made by Her Majesty the Queen and they do not come more sensible than that lady whatever one's views of Royalty are and when I last looked she was still the Head of State. The Prime Minister merely extended the invitation on behalf of Her Majesty.
As has already been said we have had worse people making State Visits to the United Kingdom. Incidentally I am no fan of President Trump anymore than I am of his opponent Hilary Clinton (America deserved better than either in my humble opinion) but he was elected President like it or not.
Rita