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Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:34 am

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:25 am

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:11 am So how come UKIP only have one MP?

The referendum showed us that many more people wanted to leave the EU than wanted to vote for UKIP and Farage.

How come the SNP have 56...?

First Past the Post system is the answer...

UKIP = 4 millions votes, 1 MP

SNP = 1½ million votes, 56 MPs

Lib Dems = 2½ million votes, 8 MPs

etc.

Those figures would be relevent if we were discussing electoral reform, but we aren't. If every person who voted to leave also voted for UKIP, they would have won the UK election. But the fact is that many more people wanted to leave the EU than wanted to vote for UKIP and Farage.

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:38 am I don't think anybody has ever claimed that everyone that wanted to leave the EU was a UKIP supporter did they...? Clearly, many people still vote tribaly even though the party they vote for in the GE doesn't represent their views on the EU...

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:01 am

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:38 am I don't think anybody has ever claimed that everyone that wanted to leave the EU was a UKIP supporter did they...? Clearly, many people still vote tribaly even though the party they vote for in the GE doesn't represent their views on the EU...

Your claimed that millions of people voted for HIM. They didn't. They voted to leave the EU.

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:09 am And the referendum wasn't a Farage or Cameron choice

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:54 am

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:09 am And the referendum wasn't a Farage or Cameron choice

That was my point all along. We have at least agreed on something!

Lynsab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:53 am You're correct Cogs, I think that one or two look for reaction by going against the majority I mean find me ONE person who thinks Katie Hopkins has written anything sensible.

Conoflex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:51 pm You don't have to like Farage, but to deny his part in bringing about the overdue EU referendum and his popularity amongst the majority of the population that voted out is plain silly.

He has done what he set out to do and has now moved on to to a non political role- slagging him off now makes as much sense as cursing the wind

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:33 pm Oh and I have implemented a word filter. A certain word now automatically gets changed to "remain".

Conoflex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:46 pm They might not want him as a son in law or even like him as person, but they must have liked what he said and what he stood for surely and that is how you assess a politicians "popularity".

I have never met the guy, so I can't comment on his personality but if he was as unpopular as some on here state surely we would never have voted to Leave

Lynsab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:45 am

Jersey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:54 pm

Lynsab wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:07 pm Hitler spoke his mind too...look where that got us.

I am looking at the US me and many millions of others hoping Trump gets bored soon and puts others in charge...oh wait a minute, that could be even worse.. Glad I'm not American

Are you seriously comparing Farage to Hilter ......if you have got an arguement ??


Oh wait ...you're the one who flounced off another forum in a blaze of glory because people did not agree with you..now I understand .

Oh for heavens sake! Another who wants everyone one to agree with his/her thoughts OR out comes the personal stuff....sigh....after eight years on another forum I thought I'd avoid the 'same old same old' and look for something new and fresh.....hence why I came here...just a few things need dusting off and it will be IMO, so away with your personal remarks, I am still on the other forum after a troll pm I decided I didn't need to argue with some such ridiculous human beings that can't get a life wherever they live it seems....so look for reactions on a forum. What I think of Farage and other sick politicians will get put on here if rules allow, if I wish to say it you can disagree all you like, but I'll say it, I have at least 8 more years on the forum before I retire from it....getting personal means you lose the argument ...

Poppy ahhhhhh here they come from the other forum...
Katie Hopkins?
Donald Trump
Nigel Farage
All in one sorry little group .that helps to speak of them all...
But instead I'd say google it....others speak about them far better than I, I'd say hated them far better than I...but nevertheless my distaste of those individuals is felt by many.

Poppy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:33 am Lynsab
I feel sad for you that you seem unable to express your dislike of certain people without resorting to vitriolic outbursts. Katie Hopkins, Donald Trump, now Nigel Farage - whoever next?

johnoddy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:07 pm How can you censor a word like Remainer just because YOU do not like it?

Conoflex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:53 pm Gandhi obviously wasn't around long enough to see how his wisdom would pan out in the "all about me" regressive society that masquerades as democracy these days

He said "first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win" - ring any bell Lynsab?

He obviously was unable to add the bit about the "undemocratic sore losers will be moaning about it ad infinitum" because he probably couldn't ever have imagined those lucky enough to be living in a democracy could ever be so shallow and selfish about the implications of losing a democratic vote