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Re: Tipping !

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:39 pm
by WHL
merchant_banker wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:16 pm Do you tip the firefighters who extinguish your house fire or cut you out of smashed up car?
Do you tip the paramedic that saves your life?

If not then why tip someone who brings your meal to your table?

Stopped tipping years ago in Cyprus its up to the employer to pay a living wage and stop being so greedy.
I'd love to see you leaving a restaurant in America, with out tipping :lol:

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:31 am
by Dominic
Happy in Cyprus wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:31 pm
merchant_banker wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:16 pmDo you tip the firefighters who extinguish your house fire or cut you out of smashed up car?

Do you tip the paramedic that saves your life?

If not then why tip someone who brings your meal to your table?

At a guess I'd say firefighters and paramedics in the UK earn two to three times what a server in a restaurant earns. They will also have long-term job security and a sizeable pension to look forward to on retirement, in addition to other benefits of working for the state.

merchant_banker wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:16 pmStopped tipping years ago in Cyprus its up to the employer to pay a living wage and stop being so greedy.

If restaurant owners were to put up their prices by 30% in order to 'pay a living wage', I suspect you'd be the first to complain.

How quaintly ironic: a merchant banker calling a restaurant owner greedy :lol:
Why would it go up by 30% though? Surely if it was to replace tipping it would have to go up by 10%. Or are you a big tipper?

I am against tipping, change not withstanding as already stipulated, as I think that people shouldn't have to rely on the moods of customers to determine their salary. I am more than happy to have it included in the quoted price.

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:10 am
by cyprusmax47
Dominic wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:31 am
Happy in Cyprus wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:31 pm
merchant_banker wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:16 pmDo you tip the firefighters who extinguish your house fire or cut you out of smashed up car?

Do you tip the paramedic that saves your life?

If not then why tip someone who brings your meal to your table?

At a guess I'd say firefighters and paramedics in the UK earn two to three times what a server in a restaurant earns. They will also have long-term job security and a sizeable pension to look forward to on retirement, in addition to other benefits of working for the state.

merchant_banker wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:16 pmStopped tipping years ago in Cyprus its up to the employer to pay a living wage and stop being so greedy.

If restaurant owners were to put up their prices by 30% in order to 'pay a living wage', I suspect you'd be the first to complain.

How quaintly ironic: a merchant banker calling a restaurant owner greedy :lol:
Why would it go up by 30% though? Surely if it was to replace tipping it would have to go up by 10%. Or are you a big tipper?

I am against tipping, change not withstanding as already stipulated, as I think that people shouldn't have to rely on the moods of customers to determine their salary. I am more than happy to have it included in the quoted price.


I always give a cash tip at the table when I am out for my weekly lunch before I settle my bill with the owners. It looks to me that they have a big smile when I arrive and on the other side I don't have to extra ask for my large slim beer glass or for sea salt flakes or hot wet wipes... and they keep my table 22 reserved. :) Also my car wash boys get an Euro or two every week when they deliver the car at the exit of the Esso Station where I wait with a coffee offered from the owner..
Living some years in Italy it was an insult NOT to leave tips at the table, when you was happy with the service in a Restaurant (even the tight German tourists did )
It was amazing what caused one US Dollar tip in the Restaurants ca. 20 years ago when I frequently used to go for Winter holidays to the Maldives or Mauritius. I did not make the mistake to give the tip on the last day as many other guests were doing, instead from the first moment after arriving. One Dollar was for this people obviously a lot of money and it looked like they queued up to serve me. ( a teachers salary was that time 200 USD/year) :o

Max

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:43 am
by Dominic
Do you have your car washed every week?

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:59 am
by cyprusmax47
Dominic wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:43 am Do you have your car washed every week?
In dusty Summer yes, when is rain forecast not. That's why the car looks like new as the paint is maintained with slight waxing....... but in reality it is 12 years old :) After two days parked in my open car port there is already a layer of fine dust on it and if I drive through Minthis hills Golf complex it is a disaster. It becomes worse when the neighbours cats having fun to slide down from the roof to the bonnet. :roll:

Max :x

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:49 pm
by Firefly
Hudswell

It is :lol:

Jackie

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:02 am
by PaphosAL
Please enlighten us, Jackie, else I won't sleep all night...

Nobody has come back on the old system of CTO Tax being added to restaurant bills. Come on, we're talking a decade or two ago, not about how the ancient Neolithic settlers sorted these matters, LOL!

Surely some of you remember this, and how CyGov subtly changed it, to make it all more 'tourist friendly' regarding VAT and CTO Tax all built in to menu prices, no?

Cheers - AL :?

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:26 am
by PaphosAL
Me too, Lloyd. If these people on low salarys work their nuts off trying to please you, be it at a filling station in Cyprus, where they fill it up for you (and while it's doing that on auto cut-off, he's also cleaning your screen) who wouldn't dream of not adding a €1 cash tip in his hand? Their smile (and uttered words of thanks) says it all...

Or in a restaurant, if you've had nice attentative service to all your needs and requirements, I've always made sure to tip the waiter cash in hand before going to the counter and settling the bill (usually rounding it up).

Have actually 'tipped' in local kiosks hundreds of times, too. Where they have a local charity collection box, and you throw a few coins in for a worthy cause. Never fails to get a thanks from the shop owner, and me going home with a happy warm feeling...

Cheers- AL :)

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:37 pm
by Firefly
Al

Enlighten you ? no really ? ;)

Jackie

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:53 pm
by PaphosAL
Firefly wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:37 pm Al

Enlighten you ? no really ? ;)

Jackie
Yes please! I'm very naiive in matters concerning cockney rhyming slang. My Mum was a genuine Cockney, having been born in Guinness Buildings, Pages Walk SW1 in 1923, where Tommy Steele and Max Bygraves also grew up...

But apart from "Get up them apples and pears now!" she never really taught me the whole cockney rhyming dictionary, sadly.

Cheers AL :?

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:07 am
by Firefly
Hmm, methinks you're having a laugh now Al, very naughty. :lol:

Jackie

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:36 am
by Royal
:lol:
Firefly wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:07 am Hmm, methinks you're having a laugh now Al, very naughty. :lol:

Jackie
Don't you mean he's having a giraffe - very Alan Ladd? :lol:

Re: Tipping !

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:59 pm
by Firefly
Love the Brit's sense of humour :D

Jackie