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Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:00 pm
by cyprusmax47
Bograt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:50 pm
cyprusmax47 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:07 pm Whatever you decide Bograt, don't forget that some Winter can be quite cold also near the sea, and humid! Don't go for something cheap because it will be more expensive in the long run for heating and cooling. You said you hate being cold, so you have to run the split units on heating for many hours every day in Winter to avoid that the house is too cold and the side effect is you will have drafts near the windows. Be sure you buy Inverter ones, minimum 12ooo BTU to heat also en suite as electric heaters there would be dangerous. After the first year living in the house you will find out how much you pay for electricity bills and perhaps think about investing in Solar PV which you could move to any other place like furniture if necessary.

Max
Thank you Mr Max, I was looking forward to hearing from you. Solar PV is something that we are very interested in. We were put off because we did not know you could move them around, so that is really good to hear. We will take your advice, check we are happy in our new place, and then hopefully invest. I am sure I will be asking you again in the future about this if that is ok.

Thank you for mentioning it, as I had no idea.



You are welcome Bograt. It is nothing special to give advice as you know from my previous posts that I am Energy Consultant and PV is on top of it my favorite. To take apart a 3 kWp net-metering system is done in a couple of hours by the way.
Max

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:25 pm
by J B
Bograt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:55 pm What counts as an "old" unit, please? Is it, for example, over 10 years, or is it more specific?

The reason I ask is that we are going to move into a new place next month. The downstairs aircon unit has been replaced, but the ones upstairs look very old. The rental agent did say the upstairs ones were much older, and she is going to get all the aircon serviced when the current tenants move out and before we move in.

From this thread, it is very apparent that not all aircon engineers are created equal, so if there is a way of knowing if a machine is old enough to be a problem, that would be useful to me.

My agent is very amenable, so if necessary I can approach her about. However, I would like a bit of concise backup before I do, so I can explain I am not just being a demanding tenant. I'm in the UK right now, so I would need to be able to tell her something like "oh, if it says ..... on the unit, it's past it's sell by date".
It's like the old 'false economy' of buying a new car to save fuel / putting in double glazing to save on fuel bills.

If the older units are still working then why change them?
As a tenant, you obviously need the most economic ones.
As a landlord (as I am) it's not in my best interests to splash out several hundred Euros just to save my tenant's electricity bills! ;)

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:27 am
by PaphosAL
J B wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:25 pm It's like the old 'false economy' of buying a new car to save fuel / putting in double glazing to save on fuel bills.

If the older units are still working then why change them?
As a tenant, you obviously need the most economic ones.
As a landlord (as I am) it's not in my best interests to splash out several hundred Euros just to save my tenant's electricity bills! ;)
Come on now, JB, please! As a dairy farmer in Shropshire, you are more than well aware of taking care of Mother Earth's resources, surely?

Just install the latest most efficient a/c units, help save the planet, and bump the rent a little! They will pay for themselves in 4 or 5 years, after which you'll be on a profit, LOL!

Cheers- AL :)
ps: Daughter and Hubby were in N.Wales in a rented cottage, for his birthday last Friday to Monday. Fabulous weekend, they really enjoyed it. Thought of you, when she phoned each day. Tala as well, you lucky man!

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:31 pm
by J B
PaphosAL wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:27 am Come on now, JB, please! As a dairy farmer in Shropshire, you are more than well aware of taking care of Mother Earth's resources, surely?

Just install the latest most efficient a/c units, help save the planet, and bump the rent a little! They will pay for themselves in 4 or 5 years, after which you'll be on a profit, LOL!

Cheers- AL :)
ps: Daughter and Hubby were in N.Wales in a rented cottage, for his birthday last Friday to Monday. Fabulous weekend, they really enjoyed it. Thought of you, when she phoned each day. Tala as well, you lucky man!
Points to respond to AL :D

I'm an Ex Dairy farmer - as I said in another thread, I used to be a farmer, but I'm aright now. ;)

Our Tala tenants have negotiated the rent down by 15% over the last 5 years due to supply and demand and as they are excellent tenants, we are fine with that.
They hardly use the A/C, they tell me, so don't suppose they would be receptive to new units and a rent increase!

We are in the process of selling the Porthmadog cottages and embarking on another project a little further down the coast at Barmouth.
Barmouth Properties dot co dot uk links you to our facebook page ....

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:37 pm
by J B
J B wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:51 pm
Crumpe wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:04 pm Did this ever get resolved?
Yes thanks.

The PM that I received was a good-un

Guy came and fixed 3 :)

... but condemned one more :cry:
Sorry to re-visit this ... I've tried to PM 'HH' but he hasn't got it yet.

Our tenants have declared the recommended 'engineer' as "useless"
After his third revisit, they have suggested to me that he doesn't visit again :shock:

Have found a guy called Triff who has been recommended ... will see how we get on!

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:13 pm
by PaphosAL
Keep us up to date please, JB. This might be vital info for Dom's Paphos Directory, in terms of servicing and maintaining older R12 A/C units...

Cheers- AL :)

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:23 am
by J B
PaphosAL wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:13 pm Keep us up to date please, JB.
Triff came back as promised - new circuit board fitted and left working for €150

www.paphosmaintenance.com

:)

Re: Gas for older A/C units

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:56 pm
by PaphosAL
J B wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:23 am
PaphosAL wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:13 pm Keep us up to date please, JB.
Triff came back as promised - new circuit board fitted and left working for €150

www.paphosmaintenance.com

:)
Thanks, J B! Another good recommendation for the PL Directory, Dominic?

Cheers (he who must not over post)- AL :lol: