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Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:28 pm
by cyprusgrump
panoscouse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:19 pm
Sinn Fein cannot take up their seats without swearing allegiance which they will not do.
No I didn't check your link other than to notice it's origin.
I have no desire to be influenced by extremists be they right or left or anywhere else for that matter.
& Most certainly not by the opinion of a multiple convicted drink driver and most probably a drug pusher/dealer.
Good for you...
No doubt you have checked the background of all the journalists involved in the other article then...? You know, police records, drugs use, alcohol abuse...?
In fact, I presume you must have done so before you even read it...? In fact you
must either do that or contact OhSusana before reading any article linked on here - just in case they have been written by an 'extremist' or anybody that has ever abused drugs or alcohol...?
Because if you didn't that makes you a hypocrite.
Or did you not click it just in case it rather proves my point?
EDITED TO ADD:
BTW, the article which you refuse to read because of what OhSusana said about Paul Staines merely contains references and links to 100 articles about Corbyn's associations with terrorists - incuding some in the Independent and Telegraph....

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:37 pm
by cyprusgrump
Oh look,
here is the DUP's manifesto...
The DUP pledged:
To reduce the rate of Corporation Tax to at least 12.5%;
To freeze then cut or abolish the TV licence and reform the BBC;
To cut the VAT rate for tourism businesses;
To introduce a Trade Accelerator Plan including an enhanced range of initiatives to help support both new and existing exporters to explore new markets;
To abolish Air Passenger Duty;
To establish low tax, deregulated Freeports in economically underdeveloped parts of the UK
To reduce the number of Government Departments and reduce the number of Special Advisors;
To introduce a Civil Service Voluntary Exit Scheme yielding annual savings of approximately £100 million;
To create new trade, investment and innovation hubs in key global markets;
To introduce alternative models of public sector service delivery such as increasing the use of social enterprises.
I quite like it!

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:55 pm
by panoscouse
cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:28 pm
panoscouse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:19 pm
Sinn Fein cannot take up their seats without swearing allegiance which they will not do.
No I didn't check your link other than to notice it's origin.
I have no desire to be influenced by extremists be they right or left or anywhere else for that matter.
& Most certainly not by the opinion of a multiple convicted drink driver and most probably a drug pusher/dealer.
Good for you...
No doubt you have checked the background of all the journalists involved in the other article then...? You know, police records, drugs use, alcohol abuse...?
In fact, I presume you must have done so before you even read it...? In fact you
must either do that or contact OhSusana before reading any article linked on here - just in case they have been written by an 'extremist' or anybody that has ever abused drugs or alcohol...?
Because if you didn't that makes you a hypocrite.
Or did you not click it just in case it rather proves my point?
EDITED TO ADD:
BTW, the article which you refuse to read because of what OhSusana said about Paul Staines merely contains references and links to 100 articles about Corbyn's associations with terrorists - incuding some in the Independent and Telegraph....
Why do you feel the need to make personal abuse when I just answered your question?
You have every right to disagree with anything or everything I've said but there is no need to get personal.
You wouldn't do it stood in front of me (I'm a big lad) so why do it hiding behind a keyboard?
Says a lot about you.
You can have the final say if you wish I'm out of this thread and will not respond, as previously said I've no desire to be influenced by extreme views.
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:00 pm
by PhotoLady
Only 649 of the 650 seats have been declared even now.
What's the hold up on Kensington?
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:42 pm
by Jimgward
The cost of the DUP deal.....

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm
by tonee
So,take the sinn fein out (7seats) and that leaves the tories short of a majority by 1 seat...326 for majority less 7 equals 319...tory seats 318
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:07 pm
by PhotoLady
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:00 pm
Only 649 of the 650 seats have been declared even now.
What's the hold up on Kensington?
Aha!
All of the other votes across the UK have been announced , leaving just one, in west London.
The result for the Kensington constituency has already been counted not once, but twice, and still a further recount is needed, according to the council.
Posting to Twitter on Friday morning (June 9), the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea said a further recount would be carried out "as soon as possible."
The council has since released information to say the recount would "recommence in the Great Hall, Kensington Town Hall, 6pm today [June 9]."
The mood in the Labour camp is one of frustration.
Speaking to Getwestlondon, Labour candidate Emma Dent Coad said: "It is frustrating, particularly as I won the first round, I won the first count, which was challenged, and I won the second count, which was then challenged, and then we started a third count, and then they suspended it."
Tory candidate, Victoria Borwick, has held the Kensington seat since 2012, and the seat, which is historically a Tory stronghold, now risks being stolen by Labour.
The Labour candidate explained it was not clear what had gone wrong at the count.
She said she was optimistic about the result, adding "I am hopeful that we get proper representation at last, all our communities in Kensington, not just certain communities, everybody should be properly represented."
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/wes ... s-13162668
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:37 pm
by cyprusgrump
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:00 pm
Only 649 of the 650 seats have been declared even now.
What's the hold up on Kensington?
Apparently the counters were 'too tired' to carry on and the re-start at 6pm...
EDIT:
Ooops, beaten to the answer...

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:49 pm
by cyprusgrump
panoscouse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:55 pm
Why do you feel the need to make personal abuse when I just answered your question?
You have every right to disagree with anything or everything I've said but there is no need to get personal.
You wouldn't do it stood in front of me (I'm a big lad) so why do it hiding behind a keyboard?
Says a lot about you.
You can have the final say if you wish I'm out of this thread and will not respond, as previously said I've no desire to be influenced by extreme views.
I haven't abused you...
You did however accuse somebody you have never met of being 'most probably a drug pusher/ dealer'... I wonder if you would care to repeat that to his face instead of from behind a keyboard? Because if you did, you would really need some evidence to back it up...?
Just pointing out the hypocrisy of refusing to read a link because of something that OhSusana said without applying the same rigour to any other article or link posted on here...
As I mentioned, the 'offending' article isn't even written by Paul Staines - it mainly contains links to 100 other articles written by journalists that you would presumably believe without ever considering their backgrounds or history.
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:17 pm
by Jimgward
tonee wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm
So,take the sinn fein out (7seats) and that leaves the tories short of a majority by 1 seat...326 for majority less 7 equals 319...tory seats 318
Your maths are wrong....
650 seats, -7 Sinn Fein, -1 Speaker = 642 seats.
To have a majority, you need 1/2 that +1 = 322 seats.
Tories have 318, so are 4 short and therefore they need the DUP votes. (especially since it's rare for every MP to be in attendance, so you can't rely on that.
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:44 pm
by cyprusgrump
Jimgward wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:17 pm
tonee wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm
So,take the sinn fein out (7seats) and that leaves the tories short of a majority by 1 seat...326 for majority less 7 equals 319...tory seats 318
Your maths are wrong....
650 seats, -7 Sinn Fein, -1 Speaker = 642 seats.
To have a majority, you need 1/2 that +1 = 322 seats.
Tories have 318, so are 4 short and therefore they need the DUP votes. (especially since it's rare for every MP to be in attendance, so you can't rely on that.
Still leaving Labour 61 short...

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:58 pm
by Jimgward
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:59 pm
by Jimgward
cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:44 pm
Jimgward wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:17 pm
tonee wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:45 pm
So,take the sinn fein out (7seats) and that leaves the tories short of a majority by 1 seat...326 for majority less 7 equals 319...tory seats 318
Your maths are wrong....
650 seats, -7 Sinn Fein, -1 Speaker = 642 seats.
To have a majority, you need 1/2 that +1 = 322 seats.
Tories have 318, so are 4 short and therefore they need the DUP votes. (especially since it's rare for every MP to be in attendance, so you can't rely on that.
Still leaving Labour 61 short...
Till the autumn....

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:03 pm
by Pete G
You have to admit, regardless of how happy, or otherwise you are with the result, there is a delicious irony in the fact that the major effect of the upswing in the Labour vote has been to remove May's dependence on her majority from keeping sweet 11 wet brexit apathetic centre-right tory MPs,
and she now has to keep sweet 12 extreme right wing religious fundamentalists, who would quite happily kill Corbyn on the floor of the House just for the pleasure of watching him die.
Don't think that is quite the result the left had in mind, maybe?
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:11 pm
by PhotoLady
And LABOUR have just nicked Kensington from the Tories

How many years has it been Blue?
Tonight they're painting it Red!
Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:38 am
by Cogs123
Only about a century Jules,.....I bet that hurt,
Aquila.....Naughty!...

Re: The UK General Election
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:48 am
by cyprusgrump
PhotoLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:11 pm
And LABOUR have just nicked Kensington from the Tories

How many years has it been Blue?
Tonight they're painting it Red!
Just 64 short of the winning post then...?
