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Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:03 pm
by Jim B
El tel wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:48 pm I was under the impression that because of the U.K. connection Cyprus had agreements in place prior to them joining the EU which looked after British citizens .

Terry
A bit like the UK had agreements with Australia and New Zealand I suppose.
Nothing to do with the EU getting their own way. When you sign up for membership of a club you abide by the rules.

Jim

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:57 pm
by WHL
Diocletian wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:32 pm
WHL wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:25 pm
Diocletian wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:22 pm I am a fervent Brexiteer, have been since before the name was invented. Any sensible person would realise that things will change post Dec 31st. It is patently ridiculous to suggest that all of the estimated 31000 Brits who have no legal status in Cyprus, are the same people that voted for Brexit.

I have been anti EU since at least 1972 and have returned to the land of my birth. In doing so, I have registered and acquired residency and will be securing a Cypriot Passport as soon as practicable. This does in no way detract from my opinion regarding the EU.
Don't you have to be living in Cyprus for five continuous years to be eligible for Cyprus citizenship,
as you are back living in the UK, how does that add up?
I am entitled to the Passport by birth. Now that the UK have finally settled my status, which took them until 1981, I am able to progress the acquisition of a Cyprus Passport. This is the first point in my life that I have been able to do this.

Anti EU since 1972, yet happily take an EU passport, some people might say that is the height of Hyprocracy,,

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 am
by Diocletian
WHL wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:57 pm
Diocletian wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:32 pm
WHL wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:25 pm

Don't you have to be living in Cyprus for five continuous years to be eligible for Cyprus citizenship,
as you are back living in the UK, how does that add up?
I am entitled to the Passport by birth. Now that the UK have finally settled my status, which took them until 1981, I am able to progress the acquisition of a Cyprus Passport. This is the first point in my life that I have been able to do this.

Anti EU since 1972, yet happily take an EU passport, some people might say that is the height of Hyprocracy,,

It is not my problem that the RoC joined the EU. I am merely claiming what I am entitled to, an RoC Passport. I would suggest the hypocracy is yours given that your Country has voted to leave but you want to stay.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:05 pm
by WHL
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 am
WHL wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:57 pm
Diocletian wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:32 pm

I am entitled to the Passport by birth. Now that the UK have finally settled my status, which took them until 1981, I am able to progress the acquisition of a Cyprus Passport. This is the first point in my life that I have been able to do this.

Anti EU since 1972, yet happily take an EU passport, some people might say that is the height of Hyprocracy,,

It is not my problem that the RoC joined the EU. I am merely claiming what I am entitled to, an RoC Passport. I would suggest the hypocracy is yours given that your Country has voted to leave but you want to stay.

No mate I aint having that, Il let others on here decide who the Hypocrite is.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm
by Diocletian
Hypocracy only comes into play if the PP was used to enter Europe,which in my case, it is not.

What people such as yourself constantly forget is, that you lost , not once, not twice but three times. Get over it and move on. I certainly intend to.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:34 pm
by Jim B
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm Hypocracy only comes into play if the PP was used to enter Europe,which in my case, it is not.

What people such as yourself constantly forget is, that you lost , not once, not twice but three times. Get over it and move on. I certainly intend to.
What people like you constantly forget it's not the likes of WHL or me that have lost but it's our kids and grandkids who lost out because people like you robbed them of their future aspirations.

Jim

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:57 pm
by Diocletian
So all of those that voted to leave should hold themselves prisoners to a union that they do not want because you think that your progeny have been badly treated........utter rubbish! Why on earth hold fast to a political and economic project that has lasted for 62 years in one form or another. It will not last beyond another 20 years and there is a large world out there.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:17 pm
by WHL
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:57 pm So all of those that voted to leave should hold themselves prisoners to a union that they do not want because you think that your progeny have been badly treated........utter rubbish! Why on earth hold fast to a political and economic project that has lasted for 62 years in one form or another. It will not last beyond another 20 years and there is a large world out there.
Never mind , youve got your shiny new EU passport :roll:

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:53 am
by Jimgym
Jim B wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:53 pm I would suggest Dee was referring more to comments like in the link below.

https://www.indy100.com/news/brexit-no- ... ab-8463121

And quite a few posters on here inferred that things wouldn't change for the British who lived here as they expected it to remain as "it used to be" after Brexit.
I'm sure if you do trawl through the old posts you will find references to this.
I find it very hypocritical of Diocletion to support denying people the right to be part of the EU and then be in the process of claiming the benefits for himself, similar to the likes of Farage.

There must be an outbreak of short term memory loss amongst Leavers.

Jim
No Jim, I asked Dee to back up her claim that some Leave voters believed nothing would change, I didn't ask about those who said a deal etc would be easy. Two COMPLETELY different issues. Yet more wildly inaccurate comments from Remainers, and they wonder why people constantly mention Project Fear!

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:00 am
by Jim B
Alan
Many on here said nothing would change, that was my point and that's why a large number of the 30,000 or so who still haven't registered haven't bothered because they honestly believe things won't change.
The link I posted was to show the leaders of brexit were implying nothing would change, maybe not in so many words but nevertheless it gave many a false sense of security.

Jim

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:24 am
by Dominic
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm Hypocracy only comes into play if the PP was used to enter Europe,which in my case, it is not.

What people such as yourself constantly forget is, that you lost , not once, not twice but three times. Get over it and move on. I certainly intend to.
You are still a hypocrite though. And remainers only lost once. There was only one vote.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:15 pm
by Jimgym
Les Bean wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:39 am
Jimgym wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:53 am
Jim B wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:53 pm I would suggest Dee was referring more to comments like in the link below.

https://www.indy100.com/news/brexit-no- ... ab-8463121

And quite a few posters on here inferred that things wouldn't change for the British who lived here as they expected it to remain as "it used to be" after Brexit.
I'm sure if you do trawl through the old posts you will find references to this.
I find it very hypocritical of Diocletion to support denying people the right to be part of the EU and then be in the process of claiming the benefits for himself, similar to the likes of Farage.

There must be an outbreak of short term memory loss amongst Leavers.

Jim
No Jim, I asked Dee to back up her claim that some Leave voters believed nothing would change, I didn't ask about those who said a deal etc would be easy. Two COMPLETELY different issues. Yet more wildly inaccurate comments from Remainers, and they wonder why people constantly mention Project Fear!
The linked article quotes more wildly innacurate comments than Remainers have said on here
Again, that wasn't my point. I was asking for the OP to back up claims that Leave voters believed nothing would change.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:46 pm
by Diocletian
Dominic wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:24 am
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm Hypocracy only comes into play if the PP was used to enter Europe,which in my case, it is not.

What people such as yourself constantly forget is, that you lost , not once, not twice but three times. Get over it and move on. I certainly intend to.
You are still a hypocrite though. And remainers only lost once. There was only one vote.
Wrong on all counts. 2016, GE in 2017, EU in 2019 and GE in 2019 all losses for remain.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:05 pm
by Kili01
Maybe since the UK have left the EU now the police forces here and those in the UK won't be working as closely together, so points gained for offences here won't be transferred to your UK license, unless it is a serious driving offence.
Who knows. Though insurance companies in both countries may still work together as regards risk assessment..

Dee

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:06 pm
by Kili01
Maybe since the UK have left the EU now the police forces here and those in the UK won't be working as closely together, so points gained for offences here won't be transferred to your UK license, unless it is a serious driving offence.
Who knows. Though insurance companies in both countries may still work together as regards risk assessment..

Dee

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:39 pm
by Dominic
Diocletian wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:46 pm
Dominic wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:24 am
Diocletian wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm Hypocracy only comes into play if the PP was used to enter Europe,which in my case, it is not.

What people such as yourself constantly forget is, that you lost , not once, not twice but three times. Get over it and move on. I certainly intend to.
You are still a hypocrite though. And remainers only lost once. There was only one vote.
Wrong on all counts. 2016, GE in 2017, EU in 2019 and GE in 2019 all losses for remain.
General Elections were not referendums on Europe. It they were then the Brexit party would have done really well. They didn't.

And as for EU elections, in 2019, after the UK had voted to leave. Are you honestly trying to say that they were anything but a pointless exercise?

There has only been one vote on Brexit. Some remainers have asked for another one, but it has always been denied.

Re: Right To Remain After Transition

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:11 pm
by Diocletian
The point of mentioning GE's was to highlight that the Party that was pro Brexit won power.