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Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:57 am

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am Jeba,
Democracy is the government 'by the people'. Not the indirect government of the people by appointed representatives.

So, a monarchy and a House of Lords is also democracy? What about judges who set and rule on laws? Should they be elected?

I thought we were discussing the unelected leaders in the EU. Pointing out the anomalies in our own system, which, despite its warts, is a democracy does not address the theme of the thread. Judges apply the laws enacted by parliament and the government. They do not create laws by themselves.

I was relating the UK to the EU, to show that things aren't much different and since the EU is 27 countries it cannot be a single Federal state

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am Jeba,
Democracy is the government 'by the people'. Not the indirect government of the people by appointed representatives.

No. It´s called representative democracy for the very reason that representatives (not delegates bound by the will of their constituency) are supposed to elect those in charge (like e.g. the PM in the UK or the Chancellor in Germany).

jeba wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:15 pm

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am Jeba,
Democracy is the government 'by the people'. Not the indirect government of the people by appointed representatives.

No. It´s called representative democracy for the very reason that representatives (not delegates bound by the will of their constituency) are supposed to elect those in charge (like e.g. the PM in the UK or the Chancellor in Germany).

Whatever - Nitpicking

Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm I was relating the UK to the EU, to show that things aren't much different and since the EU is 27 countries it cannot be a single Federal state

But they are different.

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:50 pm

Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm I was relating the UK to the EU, to show that things aren't much different and since the EU is 27 countries it cannot be a single Federal state

But they are different.

Gosh - never realised that!

Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:33 pm

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:50 pm

Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm I was relating the UK to the EU, to show that things aren't much different and since the EU is 27 countries it cannot be a single Federal state

But they are different.

Gosh - never realised that!

Apparent from your postings!

I was being facetious

Jimgward wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:07 am I was being facetious

So was I.

No, you were being smart

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:44 pm Pointing out the anomalies in our own system, which, despite its warts, is a democracy....

Actually, the UK isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy. If you want to check, just google for a list of countries that are not democracies. Just saying.

Jimgward wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:53 am No, you were being smart

Thank you for the compliment, even though I know it wasn't. Perhaps you should learn to say it how it is rather than insinuating the opposite with snide comments. It would be more pleasant.

josef k wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:26 pm

Varky wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:44 pm Pointing out the anomalies in our own system, which, despite its warts, is a democracy....

Actually, the UK isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy. If you want to check, just google for a list of countries that are not democracies. Just saying.

It is a democracy with a small 'd'. Yes, it is a constitutional monarchy but this does not prevent it being 'democratic'.