Paphos Life

I had to laugh when the Lithuanian spokesperson said on BBC last night that the Chequers plan was totally unacceptable to Lithuania. Why oh why are we in a position that a minor Baltic state gets to say what the UK can or can't do. Maybe we should withdraw our NATO/EU military support to the Baltic countries in general and then see who steps up to defend the EU boundaries with Russia.
Really had a bellyful of the EU.

Are you sure about that HIC as the rate as I write this is 1.113 and according to XE currency the lowest it has been in the last 30 days is 1.108. Nowhere can I see it being at 1.07 unless you were looking at tourist rates?
Another bit of scaremongering might I suggest.
And what you are missing is that the EU need a deal with us too! Yes I quite agree that we are the ones leaving and should not demand they change their basic principles BUT ,as you are very well aware, they are desperate for our trade - never forget that!

bromerzz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:21 pm I had to laugh when the Lithuanian spokesperson said on BBC last night that the Chequers plan was totally unacceptable to Lithuania. Why oh why are we in a position that a minor Baltic state gets to say what the UK can or can't do. Maybe we should withdraw our NATO/EU military support to the Baltic countries in general and then see who steps up to defend the EU boundaries with Russia.
Really had a bellyful of the EU.

Democracy only suits when it favours your position then?

Jim

I looked at the lowest rates, and I too could not find HIC's €1.077

Now €1.112 on currency converter

Jim B
In the same way that the UK had a vote, the democratic vote was to leave the EU and now some elements want to have another vote with the ultimate aim of reversing the original democratic vote. Guess that suits your standpoint?

When you disenfranchise millions of citizens with British passports from voting then it's not very democratic as far as I can see; this is what happened with the referendum. My position (for what it's worth) is the UK is a representative democracy and there is a Parliament full of MPs that were voted in to make decisions on the British peoples behalf. They abdicated their responsibility by voting for a referendum so we should put it right back into their court and force them to decide which direction to go.
Whichever way we go the country is sadly split right down the middle.
Jim

Jim we have had this argument before and you just keep chipping away at it
If the UK made the decision to not allow ExPats who had been out of the country for more than 15 years to vote in the referendum only then you would have a point but this has been the case for years in all votes so you have no point to make. Do you not think that if Cameron,as a remainer,had thought it would have made any difference,he would have allowed it? I would have thought the majority,unlike you,would have been of the same opinion as HIC and not bothered.

My opinìon is after all only my opinion. It may be the law but it doesn't mean it's right. Everyone who is or will be affected should have been able to vote.
As Charles Dickens wrote in Oliver Twist " The law is a ass ".

There is a private members bill introduced by Glyn Davis MP presently on its third reading in February 19 that will do away with the 15 year rule.
Jim

I think Brexit will now cause the breakup of the United Kingdom - maybe not for a good few years, but the issues in Ireland wont be solved and Scotland will end up forcing another referendum on Independence. I would give that 5 years maximum.

I think you may be right there Jimgward but in my opinion it would be a sad day indeed.

Lloyd

Yes I do mind another referendum, we had one, end of. Just because you and other remainers didn't like the outcome, that's no reason to keep banging the EU drum, I for one am sick of hearing it.

Devil

I do not have all the answers, your condescending manner does you no favours, but not surprising however. Mrs May told it like it is yesterday, at long last she is starting to show some backbone, and good for her. As for the other EU leaders, Judas comes to mind.

Jackie

Firefly wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 pm A for the other EU leaders, Judas comes to mind.

What an interesting remark! So Theresa May is now on a par with Jesus Christ, betrayed, according to you. Apart from the blasphemy, there is no reason on earth why the EU leaders should make concessions – it is not they who are leaving.

If you resign a job, your boss may ask your reasons but he is in no way obliged to explain to you that you are wrong to do so.

Devil

It was the kiss after the way she was treated, disgusting.

I did not compare Mrs May with Jesus, and it was not blasphemy.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:01 pm No the EU doesn't need to make concessions, it can go for an hard BREXIT and inflict hardship on both the UK and its own citizens, which it is willing to do because the EU elite, like "elites" throughout history care nothing for the people.

What a load of twaddle! The EU has no power whatsoever to decree a hard or any other type of Brexit; it is up to the UK to write its own withdrawal catastrophe.

As for your "elite" stupidity, it is not worthy of further comment!

If the EU refuse to do a deal, they are forcing a hard Bexit, they would also be shooting themselves in the foot, that's stupidity.

What you're actually saying Hudswell is that you're angry that the EU won't give in to Mays demands. The EU has made offers but May wants the whole cake with the cherries. You just do not appear able to get your head around the fact that it is the UK trying to get concessions, not the EU.

Your name calling of the EU negotiators does you no credit

Jim

After that embarrassing robot dancing she attempted in Africa the other week, Prime Minister May has lost any credibility she might of had, and that was Zero, shes a female version of Mr Bean.... clueless

Happy in Cyprus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:59 am

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:49 am...such is the sheer stupidity of the EU elite.

More like the stupidity of people who voted for Brexit believing it was going to be a walk in the park...and that a fragmented EU would be on it's knees pleading with the UK not to leave.

Tory backbencher and former minister John Redwood, 17 July 2016
"Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy - the UK holds most of the cards in any negotiation".

UKIP's Brexit spokesman Gerard Batten, 17 February 2017
"Trade relations with the EU could be sorted out in " an afternoon over a cup of coffee".

You're starting to come across as very bitter and twisted; a bit like a toddler who can't get his way when Mum says No.
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Now that's the pot calling the kettle black if I may say so!!!